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themeparkfan said:
Who would be breaking the law the person travelling or alton towers for letting you visit?
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It's not breaking the law as it's only advised (albeit strongly), although it's against the law to socialise with others outside your household whilst there. I think.
 
Alton Towers isn't in (or anywhere near) Stoke city centre, so will certainly be safe from tier two restrictions for now.
 
I'm in Newton which is nowhere near Liverpool City but it's included in the tier 3 Liverpool City restrictions I guess we will have to check on gov.co UK using postcode to check restrictions when they go live
 
themeparkfan said:
I'm in Newton which is nowhere near Liverpool City but it's included in the tier 3 Liverpool City restrictions I guess we will have to check on gov.co UK using postcode to check restrictions when they go live
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Stoke on Trent City Council area is going into tier 2. Alton Towers is not in this area - it is covered by Staffordshire Moorlands. They will remain in tier 1.
 
Fair point but most of the staff will probably be from stoke City area so all the non mask wearers be aware. Also is the track and trace QR code at the entrance of park and F and B outlets? Has anyone been contacted by track and trace after visiting AT would be interested to know .
 
Even in tier three, businesses are allowed to stay open with only a handful of exceptions (pubs and bars mainly). People would still be allowed to go to Alton Towers if it was their workplace, and people would be allowed to go with their household/ social bubble.

There's also nothing stopping people travelling into or out of tier three areas (although it is advised against).
 
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rob666 said:
Turn up in a group of 30 for a business lunch meeting...not against the law apparently.
Time the silly rules got sorted.
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(getting a bit off topic)

I think 99% of business meetings are happening online at the moment, but if there is a legitimate need for a meeting to take place in person then it shouldn't matter if it takes place in a board room or with lunch.
But it should be a meeting, not a social gathering.

Realistically I don't see any sensible venue willing to take the risk of a fine for taking a large group booking at the moment.
 
Hi. First post and after some advice, please.
We booked our annual family Scarefest day/evening a month or so ago when we had no specific restrictions for this area, but now have been moved to Tier3. I know it's only advisory not to travel outside our area, and on the Alton Towers site it doesn't mention banning people from Tier3 areas from entering (they say as travelling outside Tier3 is not advised, they're happy to move bookings to next year), but can anyone advise if the following:

1. Do AT ask for your address when entering the Park?
2. Is using the track & trace app compulsory?
3. (long shot this one) Does anyone know if AT would refuse entry or eject a family if they realised they were from a Tier3 area?


Thanks in advance for any help provided.
 
Weby said:
2. Is using the track & trace app compulsory?
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Unrelated but the track and trace app doesn't track your location, only anonymous IDs of phones you have been near. If a phone you have been near is then logged as having a positive covid test and you were close enough to it for long enough, you get an alert. It is purely for your own information. No-one knows who you have been near.
 
Weby said:
Hi. First post and after some advice, please.
We booked our annual family Scarefest day/evening a month or so ago when we had no specific restrictions for this area, but now have been moved to Tier3. I know it's only advisory not to travel outside our area, and on the Alton Towers site it doesn't mention banning people from Tier3 areas from entering (they say as travelling outside Tier3 is not advised, they're happy to move bookings to next year), but can anyone advise if the following:

1. Do AT ask for your address when entering the Park?
2. Is using the track & trace app compulsory?
3. (long shot this one) Does anyone know if AT would refuse entry or eject a family if they realised they were from a Tier3 area?


Thanks in advance for any help provided.
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Is it necessary for you to go? I mean Tier 3 is a high risk area for a reason and I’m not sure why you wouldn’t want to do your bit to contain the virus.
 
1. Alton have never asked for addresses.
2.Track and Trace, like mobile phone ownership, is completely voluntary.
3.I think the odds of them finding out your home location once at the park are extremely unlikely.
Personally, I would suggest you take up their kind offer and postpone until a time when you are less likely to risk your own health and that of others.
Scarefest will be there next year...probably.
 
I take on board the comments about not going, and we have agonised about this.
We've decided to go, and I know this may appear selfish, but I will explain in partial mitigation:
The Tier system is a broad brush using arbitrary boundaries and we live in an area that finds itself in T3 due to being in a wider geographical region but doesn't have a high infection rate (lower than quite a number of places in T2).
Without wanting to unfairly brand groups of people, we all know there is a huge variation between those that adhere to all precautions and those who either refuse or can't be bothered to do so. We are all scrupulous about following procedures and don't visit any higher-risk places like pubs or gyms.
On a more selfish note, the kids look forward to this so much. I call them kids, they're teenagers, and have missed out on so much this year (like everyone). The eldest daughter was born on Halloween so this time of year has always been that bit more special. She missed out on prom and all the other school-leaver stuff. This may be the last time she wants to do this with her family (she'll be 18 next year; the years just fly by!). This is, I think, our 8th consecutive SF (and we've had a couple of bad years, ruined by 'that certain group' having a mass day-out) and will be a rare treat.
 
Weby said:
I take on board the comments about not going, and we have agonised about this.
We've decided to go, and I know this may appear selfish, but I will explain in partial mitigation:
The Tier system is a broad brush using arbitrary boundaries and we live in an area that finds itself in T3 due to being in a wider geographical region but doesn't have a high infection rate (lower than quite a number of places in T2).
Without wanting to unfairly brand groups of people, we all know there is a huge variation between those that adhere to all precautions and those who either refuse or can't be bothered to do so. We are all scrupulous about following procedures and don't visit any higher-risk places like pubs or gyms.
On a more selfish note, the kids look forward to this so much. I call them kids, they're teenagers, and have missed out on so much this year (like everyone). The eldest daughter was born on Halloween so this time of year has always been that bit more special. She missed out on prom and all the other school-leaver stuff. This may be the last time she wants to do this with her family (she'll be 18 next year; the years just fly by!). This is, I think, our 8th consecutive SF (and we've had a couple of bad years, ruined by 'that certain group' having a mass day-out) and will be a rare treat.
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Don't blame you at all for deciding to go (and agree with your reasoning). Have fun and just take the usual precautions and it'll be all good.
 
Urgh. It's a pandemic mannnnn, these "it won't hurt if I do it" attitudes build up when it's 1000s of people doing it.

I want to Scarefest, I live 30 minutes away so it wouldn't be 'out of the way' for me but it's knowing people from high risk areas will be there etc etc etc.
 
Weby said:
I take on board the comments about not going, and we have agonised about this.
We've decided to go, and I know this may appear selfish, but I will explain in partial mitigation:
The Tier system is a broad brush using arbitrary boundaries and we live in an area that finds itself in T3 due to being in a wider geographical region but doesn't have a high infection rate (lower than quite a number of places in T2).
Without wanting to unfairly brand groups of people, we all know there is a huge variation between those that adhere to all precautions and those who either refuse or can't be bothered to do so. We are all scrupulous about following procedures and don't visit any higher-risk places like pubs or gyms.
On a more selfish note, the kids look forward to this so much. I call them kids, they're teenagers, and have missed out on so much this year (like everyone). The eldest daughter was born on Halloween so this time of year has always been that bit more special. She missed out on prom and all the other school-leaver stuff. This may be the last time she wants to do this with her family (she'll be 18 next year; the years just fly by!). This is, I think, our 8th consecutive SF (and we've had a couple of bad years, ruined by 'that certain group' having a mass day-out) and will be a rare treat.
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Expect to get refused entry into restaurants at the resort.
 
rob666 said:
I still blame Cummings.
He started it.
Boris didn't finish it.
Leading by example etc.
If those at the top decide not to follow the rules, and the powers that be accept their lies...why should the rest of us not make our own dodgy decisions?
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As my gran would say if Cummings jumped off a cliff would you do it. People need to take responsibility for themselves. You can certainly do something stupid but don't come crying to someone else when it ends badly.

I prefer the honest people who say they don't give a flying fart about what anyone else says and do what they want. That's at least an honestly I can respect.
 
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