AltonLover123
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Yeah, it’s going to be the headline attraction of the area whatever it may be.
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[2026] CBeebies Land Junior Coaster
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Shaggy_Dog_
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I think even the most barely themed and tiny kiddie coaster imaginable would have hoards of grown adults running and barging children out of the way trying to be the first to get the cred in on opening day.
owenstreet7
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I kinda think Bluey may be too big for Cbeebies Land generally - it's one of my guesses for Project Play at Chessington
A whole Bluey area would be a literal money printer for Merlin like how Peppa was for Paultons
LostGravity
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Haven’t Disney just secured exclusive theme park rights for attractions outside of Australia for Bluey? Unless it’s solely the film rights they’ve secured, as well as getting the IP for US Parks and Cruise.
Equally, hasn’t Spinball been allegedly ‘up for sale’ so to speak for a few years? I was under the impression Alton had it as available to purchase since the Sonic agreement ended. Realistically, the removal of Spinball has cycled now for what, ten years?
Haven’t Disney just secured exclusive theme park rights for attractions outside of Australia for Bluey? Unless it’s solely the film rights they’ve secured, as well as getting the IP for US Parks and Cruise.
Equally, hasn’t Spinball been allegedly ‘up for sale’ so to speak for a few years? I was under the impression Alton had it as available to purchase since the Sonic agreement ended. Realistically, the removal of Spinball has cycled now for what, ten years?
JT01
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urgh I can just see all the vloggers now lol
ChrisAChats
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Disney just announced a deal with Bluey to bring the IP to their parks. Does that make its appearance here more/less likely? I have no idea. Somebody might know more than me.
EDIT - LostGravity beat me to the above!
Interesting move from AT to announce a planning application being submitted so publicly. Not sure I’ve seen that approach from them previously.
EDIT - LostGravity beat me to the above!
Interesting move from AT to announce a planning application being submitted so publicly. Not sure I’ve seen that approach from them previously.
Josh
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They've finally started announcing new planning applications themselves before the fansites get ahold of them and leak it. At last they've got with the times 
Whilst I would welcome a new coaster to fill the gap between those too big Octonauts but too scared to go on Spinball etc, I do wonder why it's being built in Cbeebies Land? Another pre-school themed coaster is not what I expected to be coming up next
Whilst I would welcome a new coaster to fill the gap between those too big Octonauts but too scared to go on Spinball etc, I do wonder why it's being built in Cbeebies Land? Another pre-school themed coaster is not what I expected to be coming up next
AltonLover123
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They invested a new PLC and single rider queue for it the last two years. Doesn’t mean it’s off the table but make of that what you will.
LostGravity
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I think if Bluey isn’t exclusive to Disney, it’s impartial.
PP had Peppa Pig exclusivity for what, ten years? As soon as they could, Merlin took it to everywhere they could outside of the U.K. and it hasn’t seemed to affect PP’s appeal with Peppa at all.
IF it can be Bluey, and it IS Bluey, the demand and craze is so strong that people will lap it up regardless I imagine.
Even if Disney got Bluey into Disneyland Paris, the average family visits what maybe once or twice if they’re blessed, to a Disney park during the young years? Disney parks in a sense are no contest to a U.K. audience IMO
LostGravity
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PLC could be beneficial for a sale though at any point. Much like BPB did a restraints and control update on Ice Blast a few years ago before this whole saga of downtime and uncertainty for the past year. So that could really flow either way.
I’d argue the SRQ is still needed on Spinball due to the affect of weather. Operationally they must have seen it as beneficial especially with loading set back from the platform now (compared to historically when you queued right up if you get me).
I dunno. I’m cautious this could be the end drawing in for Spinball. Which I just think might be a negative for Alton as like others have said, there’s an odd gap between the likes of Octo/RMT and then 13/Wicker. Personally I’d say Spinball is a little in that gap.
IDB
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and for that reason, I hope it’s a travelling Wacky Worm
Matt N
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This certainly isn’t what I was expecting for Alton’s next investment after Ocean!
The length of time before it’s due to open makes me think that it might be a bigger coaster than some expect. It’s worth remembering that Octonauts was built without obtaining planning permission at all in less than 3 months. As such, I imagine that something like a Duplo Dino Coaster clone would have just slid in inoffensively without requiring planning permission at all, let alone to such an extent that it requires announcing over a year before it’s due to open. The entirety of CBeebies Land is within the GDO area, isn’t it?
With this in mind, I wonder if instead of something tiny, are we looking at something a bit bigger than Octonauts, potentially replacing Spinball? Spinball was itself a contentious build due to it being seen as Towers abusing the GDO rights to build something obtrusive, and it’s been tossed around as being on the chopping block for years. Maybe its time to go has finally come, and it will be replaced by whatever this second CBeebies coaster ends up being?
The length of time before it’s due to open makes me think that it might be a bigger coaster than some expect. It’s worth remembering that Octonauts was built without obtaining planning permission at all in less than 3 months. As such, I imagine that something like a Duplo Dino Coaster clone would have just slid in inoffensively without requiring planning permission at all, let alone to such an extent that it requires announcing over a year before it’s due to open. The entirety of CBeebies Land is within the GDO area, isn’t it?
With this in mind, I wonder if instead of something tiny, are we looking at something a bit bigger than Octonauts, potentially replacing Spinball? Spinball was itself a contentious build due to it being seen as Towers abusing the GDO rights to build something obtrusive, and it’s been tossed around as being on the chopping block for years. Maybe its time to go has finally come, and it will be replaced by whatever this second CBeebies coaster ends up being?
owenstreet7
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Fantastic point - just looking this up and it seems to not say anything about the scale of the rights.
With Towers doing Meet and Greets for Bluey, wouldn't Merlin have the rights and the UK or Europe are excluded from Disney
Bluey is going to Disney World... and beyond
Disney today announced that it will be bringing the children's television and online video franchise Bluey to its theme parks in the United States and to the Disney Cruise Line.
www.themeparkinsider.com
I read up that Meet and Greets are not allowed if a park doesn't have the rights to them.
AltonLover123
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Of course. Thoigh you could also argue they’ve needed that SRQ for years so why install it the year before it’s due to go?
Even though the planning has just gone in for this new coaster they’d have known about it during the planning for the SRQ.
It’s Merlin so who the hell knows at this point
James
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Stranger things have happened. I could be wrong, just a guess. But...
I agree with this and thinking that with this new coaster something will be removed for it to take place. Maybe or maybe not Spinball. But something in that area will be going to make way for this. It would also fit the trend we're seeing set in 2025 with The Blade being removed and Ripsaw 2.0 taking place.It does make you wonder. You'd need a decent chunk of land for a coaster, but all the larger plots in CBeebies Land are currently either in Adventure Land or sat underneath the area's other attractions.
Squiggs
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No, most of it has a modified GDO (i.e. 5m height limit), this excludes the areas with Get Set Go, Something Sensory, CBeebies Land Photo Studio and the Santa's grottos, as well as the entire strip of land from Furchester through to Andy's Dinosaur Dig.
That is, unless there's but unless there have been any changes recently, but I think we'd probably have seen these in the planning portal if they occurred.
Matt N
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If it’s not replacing Spinball, I can’t see where else it would go.
Get Set Go is a decent suggestion, but I feel like the aerial nature of it would mean that its removal wouldn’t actually open up that much space. And seeing as the area’s only entrance path is underneath it, I can imagine it could be a complicated removal.
Get Set Go is a decent suggestion, but I feel like the aerial nature of it would mean that its removal wouldn’t actually open up that much space. And seeing as the area’s only entrance path is underneath it, I can imagine it could be a complicated removal.
Is/was Octonauts under a different GDO to the rest of CBeebies Land, then? It’s taller than 5m, and was definitely built without planning permission, if I’m remembering rightly.
Squiggs
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To preface, I am honestly not sure about the details of it, but you are right, I don't think individual planning permission was sought for Octonauts. It possibly falls into a grey area.
It is definitely in a different GDO to the rest of CBeebies, and there is a clear break between the CBeebies Land and Adventure Land GDO areas (hence Get Set Go, etc. falling outside the GDO). And, as we know, the Adventure Land GDO used to be more permissive, hence how Spinball was built. So it's possible that Octonauts was either built before the GDO was officially modified, or the modification is not the same as the other modified GDOs. The former is quite possible, as I think it was around this time that the Adventure Land GDO was modified.