[202X] Project Horizon (SW9?): Planning Approved

[Bowser]

I guess the closest comparison is Spinball and Dragon’s Fury opening at both parks in the same year,

Good point tbf. I wasn't visiting in that era and it was early internet days so can't imagine that was an issue.

I think the video’s a little bit clickbaity for those who’ve kept an active interest in the project as there wasn’t really anything new in there, but still cause for some cautious optimism on this. Would still love them to wrap the dungeons and Walliams World into some new huge brilliant themed family / family thrill area

I don't think it's clickbait as there's no misleading hyperbolic title for one. It's an update, albeit a mostly speculative one from someone with excellent knowledge of the industry combined with a sprinkling of alleged inside information. It's easy to forget that people like us who frequent forums such as this are the niche within a niche and thousands of comparably "casual" enthusiasts will only get their updates from sources like TPWW.

 

[flyingguitar]

I don;t think it will be much of a problem AT and chessington, they are just the same ride type, and I think this indoor rollercoasters are often much more reliant on theming (at least the past examles of inamin multi dimension and I think they would be quite seperated (like opening 2 identical dark rides system in the same park but with differnt themes, it can feel like differnt rides.

 

[Maelstrom]

Something else I thought of in regard to Merlin getting a multi coaster deal with Intamin. Legoland California and Florida are both building indoor coasters- which have also seen rumoured to be from intamin, Californias is galaxy space themed, I am not sure about Floridas theme but possibly the same. The show buildings for these is smaller than Horizons and the leaked layout for California was something similar to DarKoaster at Busch Gardens

Image from https://coasterfriends.de/freizeitp...ter-huss-airboat-legoland-california.1226984/

 

[Jb85]

Good spot this.

So it’s clear Merlin have a deal for these across the portfolio

 

[Ash]

I expected a darkoaster type layout at Alton, hopefully if this the case there’s also another unique element involved as well.

I’d taker a cheaper layout if it meant an original IP being honest. I just hope it’s not a standalone attraction given its location and they tie it in with the area. The potential for that part of the park is huge it’s all there if they get it right.

GG re-theme
4D cinema reopened
Nick reopened as a playground
Dungeons turned into trackless ETF shooter ride
Project Horizon opens
New retail added in old cars garage with driving school relocated to CBeebies indoors (the bridge will be terrible for guest flow)
Burger Kitchen turned into a themed offering you’d actually want to eat in

 

[Poisson]

I'd turn Burger Kitchen to a bigger Woodcutters and make Woodcutters a takeaway place.
I'd probably put a tracked over trackless dark ride on cost grounds.

 

[Jb85]

I'd turn Burger Kitchen to a bigger Woodcutters and make Woodcutters a takeaway place.
I'd probably put a tracked over trackless dark ride on cost grounds.

BK is surely big enough to do some sort of street food type place. Different units indoors

 

[Poisson]

BK is surely big enough to do some sort of street food type place. Different units indoors

I just think it'd do better serving similar food (but a better menu) as it does now and gets rid of the issues they have with the limited seating at Woodcutters

 

[Ash]

BK is surely big enough to do some sort of street food type place. Different units indoors

I think that would be a great shout putting 3 small outlets in their with different offerings and shared seating area. Certainly big enough.

 

[BSwiss]

I think that would be a great shout putting 3 small outlets in their with different offerings and shared seating area. Certainly big enough.

Seconded. This could be great for food choice AND marketing.

Especially in the foodie Insta/vlogger age when a jacket potato wagon can go viral. Rotate the outlets (they’ll all be Aramark-operated anyway), menus or specials regularly enough and give the vloggers stuff to vlog.

Also, is it remotely plausible to turn the Dungeons into a POTC/Captain Jack’s restaurant/water ride?

 

[AltonLover123]

Seconded. This could be great for food choice AND marketing.

Especially in the foodie Insta/vlogger age when a jacket potato wagon can go viral. Rotate the outlets (they’ll all be Aramark-operated anyway), menus or specials regularly enough and give the vloggers stuff to vlog.

Before the airstreams arrived in X-Sector earlier this year, it sounded as though this was gonna be a similar set up with street food style offerings utilising the arcade.

Although the airstreams were actually okay…I thought this would have been a better idea.

 

[flyingguitar]

Before the airstreams arrived in X-Sector earlier this year, it sounded as though this was gonna be a similar set up with street food style offerings utilising the arcade.

Although the airstreams were actually okay…I thought this would have been a better idea.

That could be a test to see if such a style could work elsewhere at AT, I think it could be a really good move, as not everyone wants the same things at the same time (some people may want fish and chips, otheres may want a pizza slice) combining them gives the best of both works.

 

[Jb85]

This is why

That could be a test to see if such a style could work elsewhere at AT, I think it could be a really good move, as not everyone wants the same things at the same time (some people may want fish and chips, otheres may want a pizza slice) combining them gives the best of both works.

This is why I love the idea.
A couple of places local and with work have this setup (Dibeth dining club Birmingham, Produce Hall Stockport)
They work really well but have to be quirky- which suits a themepark

Great news though that Horizon appears to be ….. on the Horizon again

 

[AltonLover123]

That could be a test to see if such a style could work elsewhere at AT, I think it could be a really good move, as not everyone wants the same things at the same time (some people may want fish and chips, otheres may want a pizza slice) combining them gives the best of both works.

For sure. I get they wouldn’t have wanted to lose the arcade but they’d make far more money having food outlets in those spaces I’m sure!

 

[Poisson]

X-Sector arcade and the chicken place could swap locations as well.

I fear we are off topic and the mods will arrive.

 

[Themeparksandy1981]

We got to talk about TTWW on other topics as there main topic was locked.
Really they could remove the theatre, shop next door, former Nick attraction and cafe and open up that area.
Them building are over 40 years old.

 

[Skyscraper]

Looking at the planning application, permission will expire on the 21st June 2026.



So they they've got over a year (around 17 months) to start construction before it expires, no rush.

 

[Poisson]

Starting construction can mean just about anything too. If you make the compound and bring in the site offices, that's arguable a start. Clearing the site? Can be argued too.

 

[Bowser]

Starting construction can mean just about anything too. If you make the compound and bring in the site offices, that's arguable a start. Clearing the site? Can be argued too.

By that logic have they potentially already started? Is there a limit to when it must be completed by? Guessing not…

 

[Poisson]

By that logic have they potentially already started? Is there a limit to when it must be completed by? Guessing not…

Considering this is a development on private land, 99% hidden and the traffic impact is already out there for the construction and approved, along with noise and visual impact, if Towers were to lay out a revised schedule, either delaying a "proper" start or a lengthened construction timeline, I would be surprised if there was any objections.