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Blackpool Pleasure Beach: 2023 Discussion

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AT86 said:
It’s listed right? So it can go SBNO, but can’t be knocked down on the dead of night Wild Mouse style?

Not without a prosecution anyway.
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They could certainly demolish it legally if they make a feasible case for it being “beyond the point of economic feasibility” or something along those lines.

I have to say, it would be odd given that they’ve done all the work on it recently, but Wild Mouse had lots of work done just before it got removed, and look what happened there…

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I actually feel that listing roller coasters is somewhat counterproductive. I get that people want to conserve history, and I do empathise with that sentiment.

However, listing a ride does not force the park to operate it, it merely forces them to leave it standing or apply for permission to demolish it. This means that if the ride were to become economically unfeasible to operate for whatever reason, the park would have to either jump through hoops to replace it or leave it SBNO and crumbling away. I imagine that burdening the park with a crumbling, SBNO ride that’s economically infeasible to operate but can’t be removed certainly wasn’t the intent of those who originally got the BPB coasters listed, but I do fear that that may end up being the case.

In this particular instance, however; while I don’t rate Grand National at all based on my two rides (one in 2018 and one in 2019), as I personally remember finding it far too rough for my personal enjoyment, I would not want to see it removed. I think the issues it has (or had in 2019, at least) are easily solvable with a retrack and/or new trains, and it does sound as though the 2022 work did go some way towards achieving that end.
 
AT86 said:
It’s listed right? So it can go SBNO, but can’t be knocked down in the dead of night Wild Mouse style?

Not without a prosecution anyway.
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Yup Big Dipper, Blue Flyer, Nash, Flying Machines, and the Casino building are all grade 2 listed. Noah's Ark is also grade 2 listed and has been stood inaccessible for years, so it's possible that could end up happening I guess.
 
The roughness is solvable. Plenty of older woodies operate with a reasonable level of comfort as National once did too. The problem is that they’re only addressing the symptoms rather than the cause.

Change the trains first, and then when you spend money on retracking, it won’t immediately be damaged by inappropriate trains.
 
I don't want see Grand National go before Steeplechase. That ride is such a huge waste of space, it's only attraction is that it's the last surviving one of its kind. For what it's worth, back row on the Big Dipper is much worse than Grand National.
 
Over on the Great Yarmouth Pleasure Beach thread @Mattie boy posted details of their new admission strategy.

An excellent hybrid system of Pay One Price, pay for ride tickets, or just pay to walk round.

If only the management at Blackpool Pleasure Beach would take note...


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I would not shed a single tear if Nash went. There is only so long you can keep a bad ride purely for sentimental reasons. I have not ridden it for a good few years now and am not sure that I plan to ever ride it again; ideally I do not want a rollercoaster to try and break my back.
 
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