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CBeebies Land
Rob
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Re: 2014: Old MacDonald's Farmyard Developments
It's only really one attraction. Pretty much no-one ever goes into the Dung Heap so that being closed will probably not even be noticed. Riverbank will be a loss during a busy period but I think they'll cope. Hopefully the rest of the farm can stay open until the end of the season.
It's only really one attraction. Pretty much no-one ever goes into the Dung Heap so that being closed will probably not even be noticed. Riverbank will be a loss during a busy period but I think they'll cope. Hopefully the rest of the farm can stay open until the end of the season.
Dave
TS Founding Member
Re: 2014: Old MacDonald's Farmyard Developments
Think we will see tractors, doodle doo and the barn stay open, most of the building work is in the tent area for the 2014 phase of this anyway so I would guess they want to get ahead with that area.
Although they need planning approval first.
Think we will see tractors, doodle doo and the barn stay open, most of the building work is in the tent area for the 2014 phase of this anyway so I would guess they want to get ahead with that area.
Although they need planning approval first.
Re: 2014: Old MacDonald's Farmyard Developments
CBeebies confirmed as the new IP for 2014! http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/oct/15/bbc-cbeebies-land-alton-towers?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
CBeebies confirmed as the new IP for 2014! http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/oct/15/bbc-cbeebies-land-alton-towers?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Rose Of Dawn
TS Member
Re: 2014: Old MacDonald's Farmyard Developments
I'm just glad they've finally announced it.
I think it's a great idea, but I really hope Towers/Merlin aren't stingy with the theming. It has big competition from Thomas Land, Peppa Pig Land and Nickelodeon Land, so the usual shipping container/satellite dish combinations won't work here.
I'm just glad they've finally announced it.
I think it's a great idea, but I really hope Towers/Merlin aren't stingy with the theming. It has big competition from Thomas Land, Peppa Pig Land and Nickelodeon Land, so the usual shipping container/satellite dish combinations won't work here.
Ted
TS Member
Re: 2014: Old MacDonald's Farmyard Developments
I'm not disappointed by this. Sensible choice for an IP as it's something that would suit Alton quite well. It needs to be done really well though if it's competing with stuff like Peppa Pig World, Thomas Land, and Nick Land.
I'm not disappointed by this. Sensible choice for an IP as it's something that would suit Alton quite well. It needs to be done really well though if it's competing with stuff like Peppa Pig World, Thomas Land, and Nick Land.
Alastair
TS Team
Re: 2014: CBeebies Land
Looks good to be honest - I like the fact that they will keep it updated with the latest content, and I'm sure the BBC will want it to be as high quality as possible considering the competition. It will undoubtedly be a huge draw though as CBeebies is probably the main channel that kids of that age watch.
Looks good to be honest - I like the fact that they will keep it updated with the latest content, and I'm sure the BBC will want it to be as high quality as possible considering the competition. It will undoubtedly be a huge draw though as CBeebies is probably the main channel that kids of that age watch.
Rose Of Dawn
TS Member
Re: 2014: CBeebies Land
That wouldn't surprise me. It's already heavily rumoured that 2015 will see the junior coaster the park so desperately needs. It would also make sense having a brand as broad as CBeebees that it would be updated on a regular basis, mixing classic IPs with what's popular at the moment.
After reading the press release, it also seems to make more sense that the new area will focus on interactive attractions like play areas and shows as opposed to rides, as under the remit the attractions will need to be educational of sorts.
That wouldn't surprise me. It's already heavily rumoured that 2015 will see the junior coaster the park so desperately needs. It would also make sense having a brand as broad as CBeebees that it would be updated on a regular basis, mixing classic IPs with what's popular at the moment.
After reading the press release, it also seems to make more sense that the new area will focus on interactive attractions like play areas and shows as opposed to rides, as under the remit the attractions will need to be educational of sorts.
Rob
TS Team
Re: 2014: CBeebies Land
I noticed that. Makes me wonder whether they are planning rides at other UK parks based on BBC IPs, maybe even aimed at older children or the thrill market.
Anyway, The Guardian article says that even though none of the shows have been confirmed as the BBC do not have the rights to all the characters on the channel, they do expect In the Night Garden and Postman Pat will be a part of the development. I have no idea what In the Night Garden is but Postman Pat would be good.
Tim said:
I noticed that. Makes me wonder whether they are planning rides at other UK parks based on BBC IPs, maybe even aimed at older children or the thrill market.
Anyway, The Guardian article says that even though none of the shows have been confirmed as the BBC do not have the rights to all the characters on the channel, they do expect In the Night Garden and Postman Pat will be a part of the development. I have no idea what In the Night Garden is but Postman Pat would be good.
pluk
TS Member
Re: 2014: CBeebies Land
What do they actually own though? How can they licence Postman Pat when Longleat already have it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGLsN_FkQF4#ws
I hope they can work it out properly but it seems like a rights minefield, with most things made by outside companies and and many being shown on more than one network.
What do they actually own though? How can they licence Postman Pat when Longleat already have it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGLsN_FkQF4#ws
I hope they can work it out properly but it seems like a rights minefield, with most things made by outside companies and and many being shown on more than one network.
James
TS Founding Member
Re: 2014: CBeebies Land
I think it's pretty given that this development will span over 2014 and 2015. I can see a kids coaster coming to the park in 2015, with the loss of The Beastie they really need a replacement as soon as possible.
That line implies that there will be other IPs outside of CBeebies that could come into Merlin parks. The BBC has quite a vast range of programming so it could lead to all sorts of things happening in future. Dare I say a possible look into a Doctor Who attraction too (although I'd rather see 'Who never used in a theme park). Although that line is very vague so it might not just be rides and attractions that fall within the relationship. Future events and shows could also fall under that line.
It depends what the terms of the contact are with Longleat. Sometimes the contract outlines that it can only be exclusive to that particular attraction. Although if the contract with Longleat does not state that it must be exclusive to Longleat only, then there's no stopping Alton Towers from using the IP too.
I think it's pretty given that this development will span over 2014 and 2015. I can see a kids coaster coming to the park in 2015, with the loss of The Beastie they really need a replacement as soon as possible.
That line implies that there will be other IPs outside of CBeebies that could come into Merlin parks. The BBC has quite a vast range of programming so it could lead to all sorts of things happening in future. Dare I say a possible look into a Doctor Who attraction too (although I'd rather see 'Who never used in a theme park). Although that line is very vague so it might not just be rides and attractions that fall within the relationship. Future events and shows could also fall under that line.
pluk said:
It depends what the terms of the contact are with Longleat. Sometimes the contract outlines that it can only be exclusive to that particular attraction. Although if the contract with Longleat does not state that it must be exclusive to Longleat only, then there's no stopping Alton Towers from using the IP too.
Jonathan
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Re: 2014: CBeebies Land
If Merlin manage to pull this off, it could be a very successful addition to the park. I'm not sure what the visitor figures for Paulton's have been like since they opened Peppa Pig World a couple of years ago, but from what I recall, they've gone up by quite a bit, so the same could happen to Towers with CBeebies Land.
Whilst we're on the subject of CBeebies, The Clangers is set to make a comeback in 2015 on the channel. Could we therefore be seeing a Clangers-themed coaster that year as well? It's a long shot, but I think it's possible.
If Merlin manage to pull this off, it could be a very successful addition to the park. I'm not sure what the visitor figures for Paulton's have been like since they opened Peppa Pig World a couple of years ago, but from what I recall, they've gone up by quite a bit, so the same could happen to Towers with CBeebies Land.
Whilst we're on the subject of CBeebies, The Clangers is set to make a comeback in 2015 on the channel. Could we therefore be seeing a Clangers-themed coaster that year as well? It's a long shot, but I think it's possible.
Rose Of Dawn
TS Member
Re: 2014: CBeebies Land
Not opening until May?
It's not exactly The Smiler, from the plans all they are doing is a bit of landscaping and plonking down some theming. There's no new rides to be built, just some tents. Unless they have stated that date so they can later announce it'll be opening earlier than scheduled, I find it hard to believe it'll take them the best part of six months to do it.
A Soup Dragon coaster?
Not opening until May?
It's not exactly The Smiler, from the plans all they are doing is a bit of landscaping and plonking down some theming. There's no new rides to be built, just some tents. Unless they have stated that date so they can later announce it'll be opening earlier than scheduled, I find it hard to believe it'll take them the best part of six months to do it.
A Soup Dragon coaster?
Rob
TS Team
Re: 2014: CBeebies Land
Hmm it is rather strange that this isn't opening until May, meaning that once again Towers will lose out on potential Easter holiday visitors. You'd have thought that would have been a key time for such an investment. I know it's how things are done over in the USA, opening new attractions a few months after the start of the season, but here especially at Towers new attractions have always opened on opening day.
Dare I say it's another case of Towers leaving things late? It might not be but after the last few years it is fair to speculate such a possibility. The planning application was submitted at a surprisingly late date.
Hmm it is rather strange that this isn't opening until May, meaning that once again Towers will lose out on potential Easter holiday visitors. You'd have thought that would have been a key time for such an investment. I know it's how things are done over in the USA, opening new attractions a few months after the start of the season, but here especially at Towers new attractions have always opened on opening day.
Dare I say it's another case of Towers leaving things late? It might not be but after the last few years it is fair to speculate such a possibility. The planning application was submitted at a surprisingly late date.
Imagination
TS Member
Re: 2014: CBeebies Land
Longleat acquired it years ago with no exclusivity. It's actually from Woodland Animations (now part of DreamWorks Classics) and not a BBC Worldwide IP unlike Deadly Sixty etc at the park.
They can have as much rights as Longleat to have a postman pat area. BBC own certain rights for Postman Pat but not all.
pluk said:
Longleat acquired it years ago with no exclusivity. It's actually from Woodland Animations (now part of DreamWorks Classics) and not a BBC Worldwide IP unlike Deadly Sixty etc at the park.
They can have as much rights as Longleat to have a postman pat area.
BBC own certain rights for Postman Pat but not all.