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Coronavirus

Coronavirus - The Poll

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Let’s be honest here and say the reason for the lockdown was to stop the NHS from reaching capacity before the government had time to increase that capacity, it was very little to do with saving the people already in god’s waiting room.

Once capacity has been increased with these new nightingale hospitals then the lockdown will be lifted slightly until it gets close to its new capacity, that is the only way we can deal with this virus until there is a vaccine or herd immunity is achieved.
 
herd immunity is a long long way off because the media and gov have brainwashed the entire population they are going to die if they go out . little chance of it spreading very fast :rolleyes:

they even made me believe it at one point
 
BigT said:
Let’s be honest here and say the reason for the lockdown was to stop the NHS from reaching capacity before the government had time to increase that capacity, it was very little to do with saving the people already in god’s waiting room.

Once capacity has been increased with these new nightingale hospitals then the lockdown will be lifted slightly until it gets close to its new capacity, that is the only way we can deal with this virus until there is a vaccine or herd immunity is achieved.
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That's exactly what government have been saying was the reason for the lockdown!

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Some government ministers have suggested that some form of social distancing will need to remain until there is a vaccine available unless there is a "viable alternative" (e.g. a stringent testing or contact tracing method). However, some scientists reckon they could have a vaccine ready by September now, so that might not be as long as we think.

I could personally see some measures starting to get relaxed on 7th May, with all things bar the ban on mass gatherings being removed by the height of summer.
 
bluesonichd said:
the ONS say that 91% of those that died had pre-existing health conditions
Now, while I 100% agree we should be protecting these people.
is keeping 90% of the healthy UK population with no pre-existing health conditions confined to their homes and shutting everything down the wayo_O
These people are already isolating themselves from everyone
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Quoting death statistics represents only a tiny part of the problem being faced by the government and health service - it doesn't mean 90% of the healthy UK population will be fine to go about their business. You'll still have people being hospitalised and often being ventilated off the back of this illness which are not included in the figures you're mentioning.

This is the main reason for the lockdown, to stop health services being overloaded with people getting this illness and ultimately being hospitalised. Most are not going to die from this illness - but are far more likely to if the health service is overloaded to the point where it is unable to function.

bluesonichd said:
herd immunity is a long long way off because the media and gov have brainwashed the entire population they are going to die if they go out . little chance of it spreading very fast :rolleyes:

they even made me believe it at one point
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This is incorrect. As I've already mentioned above, the lockdown is in place primarily to prevent the hospitals becoming overloaded with patients, not because you'll necessarily die if you catch it. If that were the case, we wouldn't be allowed to go out for exercise or go to the supermarket. It's even there in plain English the key government message:

Stay Home. Protect the NHS. Save Lives

At no point have the government stated that the general public are likely to die from the illness. They've been clear that for most symptoms are relatively mild, but complications are possible - and more so than the usual season flu.

Mr Pearse said:
My partner she works in a specialist care home during all this, she has worked more hours then she’s legally aloud, due to low staff at the moment she has no choice but to keep working everyday. She hasn’t been home in over 4 weeks due to working away, I honestly worry like hell for her tho her home isn’t partially for older people it’s still a lot for her but during this crisis we both have to respect this is the way of life at the moment.
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SO MUCH respect for those that are working in the care industry at the moment, your partner is amazing and has my utmost respect!

Matt N said:
Some government ministers have suggested that some form of social distancing will need to remain until there is a vaccine available unless there is a "viable alternative" (e.g. a stringent testing or contact tracing method). However, some scientists reckon they could have a vaccine ready by September now, so that might not be as long as we think.

I could personally see some measures starting to get relaxed on 7th May, with all things bar the ban on mass gatherings being removed by the height of summer.
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I can see some things returning to being open, but social distancing will form an element of literally everything in life until we see a vaccine being created, and most importantly being available and distributed across the population. We'll almost certainly not see mass gatherings such as festivals, normal seating at football matches etc before the year is out.
 
bluesonichd said:
the ONS say that 91% of those that died had pre-existing health conditions
Now, while I 100% agree we should be protecting these people.
is keeping 90% of the healthy UK population with no pre-existing health conditions confined to their homes and shutting everything down the wayo_O
These people are already isolating themselves from everyone
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You'd be the first to complain if you caught the virus in that situation.
 
GaryH said:
Germany have banned all mass gatherings, bars, cafes, cinemas, theatres etc until end of August
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No, large mass gatherings are banned until August 31st. So that's football matches, festivals and so forth. Decisions on bars and cafes to be taken with time over the coming months.

I live in Germany and people have been pretty decent in terms of following the restrictions, but it doesn't feel like a dead zone like I'm hearing back from the UK. I would cautiously anticipate June or thereabouts as a return to some sort of normality, but I am certain I'm about to experience a very different summer than expected nonetheless.
 
Just for clarification from a Germany point of view (thanks @CSLKenny for this on EuropaStreet's FB page yesterday). Mass gatherings is basically large scale events (festivals etc). They are what have been banned until the end of August.

In terms of theme parks, bars, cafes etc - the current restrictions on these have currently just been extended until 4th May with a review at the end of this month.

Edit: I see you've clarified it already @Plastic Person :p
 
3 more weeks of lockdown then.

Wonder how people would've behaved of we'd continued the crap weather from the start of the year rather than bright sunshine.

Bluesonic might need someone to check on him soon.
 
I'm not sure this nice weather is a blessing or just a bit cruel because I keep thinking of days in Alton with blue skies and abundance of sunshine
 
GaryH said:
I'm not sure this nice weather is a blessing or just a bit cruel because I keep thinking of days in Alton with blue skies and abundance of sunshine
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I prefer slightly wetter weather, it puts people off going so the queues are a lot easier to manage.

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I am being told we got wet weather moving in for the weekend (Shropshire/Staffordshire). Hopeful that will keep some of the idiots in.

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Here is a cheery thought. The peak of divorces is just after Christmas. I wonder if there is going to be a peak again after lockdown is over?

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