Coronavirus

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Coronavirus - The Poll

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  1. DiogoJ42

    DiogoJ42 TowersStreet Member

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    If playing Pandemic has tought me one thing, it's that the virus always wins.

    Well, that, and Pandemic is a rubbish game.
     
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  2. IanSR

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    I had viral pneumonia when I was 12 (it is the main symptom of Coronovirus), I was young, fit and healthy and it nearly killed me.

    Because it's a virus there is little in the way of treatment, when I had it I was put on a daily dose of 1000mg of Ibuprofen, that and bed rest was all they could do at the time (ibuprofen was only available on prescription too, it was that new).

    So if this thing does turn into a pandemic, you can pretty much guarantee it'll make seasonal flu look like a wet fart in the bath.

    One good thing I've found though, is if you need to get anywhere fast, wipe some water on your brow and start coughing, people will fall over themselves to get out of your way lol.
     
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    The rate at which this is spreading in Italy is concerning. It seems the Austrians are closing the border. It’s only a matter of time before we get really hit here I feel
     
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    New hand gels in the loos at Blackpool yesterday, lots of discussion with staff.
    If things continue as they have, I see all leisure facilities being closed before peak season.
    Two weeks infectious without any symptoms is impossible to contain.
    Priorities people...get your coasters in quick this season.
     
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    They now recon that it could be 4 weeks incubation before any symptoms shows.

    If this virus does hit the UK, I'm sure that all attractions will be closed to the public.

    With the way that we all freely travel from country to country, I'll be surprised that this virus will ever be contained.
     
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    It'll probably die off by summer like the seasonal flu usually does. That doesn't mean it wouldn't have wreaked havoc to the world economy by then though.
     
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    I'm concerned that my USA mega trip this year will probably get canceled by the virus :( can't see it being a huge amount of time before the US starts shutting boarders and if not we may see shut parks over there
     
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    Talking of America, the virus will help them with clearing the slumps, the low paid and the uninsured.
    The only thing to worry the American elite is having less people to fill low paid jobs

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    The only way to contain this is to lock down countries - ban flights / train travel car travel etc.
    Which of course won’t happen as economies will collapse overnight.
     
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    Too late now anyway.
     
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    It spreads so fast because of the incubation period, with regular flu it takes you down a couple of days after exposure and generally you're in bed for a week so not wondering around the greater population breathing over people, touching hand rails etc.

    With this you can be wondering about for up to a month not showing any symptoms passing the virus on to anything and anyone you touch.

    Stating the obvious I know.... LOL
     
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    There are some people recorded having an incubation period of up to 27 days so much longer than the flu. It also seems to be spreading to more people than flu. Current estimates on fatality rate range from 2.7% to 5.6% so it has the potential to kill many more people than the flu should it really take off. Of particular concern is the amount of cases classed as "critical" which assumes the patient is in ICU. I dont know how many ICU beds we have in the UK but currently over 11k people are in them in China. 23 in Italy are already critical.

    Personally, I think this virus is much worse than China is letting on - only this week 2 young doctors died in China. One was 29 years old. So its not only affecting the old.

    A good website by the way to keep tabs on things I have found is this one:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    Lets hope the UK can keep numbers down, but personally I doubt it very much with unchecked air travel still taking place from China, Japan, Iran etc.
     
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    I've heard from a few different sources in the broadcasting world that if this doesn't get resolved soon, the Tokyo Olympics will be cancelled. Which is absolutely the right thing to do.
     
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    If you manage it properly, it usually only results in fatalities in those with respiratory problems, especially the elderly.
    If you just stay in bed and do nothing, and then get pneumonia and do nothing, you might die.
    That is what has happened in China I think, those lucky enough to get in to hospital have usually lived.
    Those at home with no support...often the elderly, have been at far greater risk.
    Avoid crowds, wash your hands, drink more alcohol at home.
     
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    So that's no visit(s) to Alton then!
     
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    Or go dressed like this
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    Personally I think it’s a decision that should be made sooner rather than later. Same with the European championships. It’s really not worth the risk spreading this
     
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    I'm sure they'll find a way to keep the virus at bay before too long; bear in mind that China managed to build a brand new hospital in 10 days to contain those with the virus, so if they apply that same amount of energy into finding a cure, then it could be not too long before the spread of the virus is kept to a regulatable level.

    However, I admit that its current spread is somewhat concerning. Italy is a rather concerning development at the moment, and if it spreads in the UK, then it could spell bad news for certain things. Although having said that, most countries seem to be doing a pretty good job of containing it; everyone who's been contaminated so far has been isolated, and the only British cases thus far seem to be in people who've come from Asia.
     
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    @Matt N sorry but I disagree with a lot of your post. The hospital China built had very little in terms of staff. Didn't have basic facilities such as toilets. People who went there without the virus ended up catching it. 60% infection rate I read somewhere from people entering that hospital.

    China contained it by welding doors closed so people couldn't get out of their apartments. Who knows how many are suffering or already dead inside.

    Nearly the entire country of China has been in lockdown and that's the only way they have controlled it (well, it's not fully controlled yet).

    As for controlling it, I don't think we are able to control it. A report today suggests the R0 to be up to 6. So for each person who has it they will pass it on to up to 6 more people, which explains the exponential growth we are seeing. Experts still don't know how it is transmitted or how long it lives on surfaces!

    Given the incubation period is up to a month, it's only a matter if time now until cases across Europe and the UK skyrocket as people start to show symptoms. Many who have been in holiday in Italy over half term now will be back in the UK.

    Direct flights still arrive daily into the UK from Iran, China, south Korea, Singapore etc with no checks. It's only a matter of time before someone perhaps comes in from Iran and passes or around.

    A member of the WHO suggests this could be Disease X which could wipe out millions. Thankfully this virus is RNA based which don't mutate as much as DNA viruses, but either way, could the UK cope with 20% of infected cases needing to go in to ICU and put on mechanical ventilation for up to two weeks..? I doubt it.

    We can't even cope with a bad flu season......
     
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    I am also concerned at the current rate of spread.
    The reaction of Britain's services has been on the ball, holding down our levels of spread.
    It's going to get harder to contain it here, when other countries like Italy are having problems with spread. Leading to an overload on the system we have in place.




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