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With my church (when it’s open, of course!), the main doors are kept open at the moment so air can circulate and ventilation is increased. Thanks to a movable wall between the sanctuary and the room next door, that space has been commandeered as extra church space to allow for social distancing if the numbers are ever that high, plus the fire exit there is kept open for church services. My only concern when we return next month is that the open doors will make it a bit chilly, but I’d rather do that to reduce the risk of getting COVID.
 
rob666 said:
Was the room well ventilated Matt?
Apparently, a few open doors and windows can make a big difference.
My wife enjoys freezing everyone out at work with good ventilation.
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I think the door may have been open, so we were not unventilated, but no windows were open.
 
Burbs said:
But the thing is, it's not like there's anyone patrolling parks or streets looking out for this. For all anyone knows you could be the same household and I've not seen anyone be approached to ask if they live together or whatever. Not saying I agree with it or not, just looking at the logistics.
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There is though. In my county every area has a dedicated covid unit in each area patrolling and responding to breach reports, I'd bet that is repeated pretty consistently nationwide.
 
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In terms of skepticism regarding Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock’s claims of normality by Easter, even Chris Whitty is now agreeing with them in saying that social distancing rules could be pulled in the spring.

Given that Chris Whitty is usually quite pessimistic compared to the politicians, this fills me with a great degree of hope!
 
delta79 said:
If vaccination uptake is good enough.

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I’m sure uptake will be pretty high. I think the proportion of the population who are strongly against vaccination is small enough to allow the vaccine to be effective.

I do appreciate that plenty of people have concerns about the vaccine(s), but I think the amount of people so strongly opposed to it that they definitely won’t get it is pretty small. Or at least, not big enough to have a major effect upon the effectiveness of the vaccination effort.
 
Matt N said:
In terms of skepticism regarding Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock’s claims of normality by Easter, even Chris Whitty is now agreeing with them in saying that social distancing rules could be pulled in the spring.

Given that Chris Whitty is usually quite pessimistic compared to the politicians, this fills me with a great degree of hope!
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He was a little more circumspect, he said we can “start” to relax rules at Easter if a vaccine is approved. That’s not a complete return to normal.

My guess is summer will be bordering on normal.
 
Many of the people who won't get the vaccine shots are also those who deny it's existence. Others are just idiots. Many more will say they won't but will go get the shots anyway. Either way, it'll only be a small minority who won't get the vaccine. I would imagine almost all vulnerable people would have had it by the time it gets to the denier's and stubborn people so sod them. As long as we can open the economy back up that's the main thing.

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rob666 said:
No.
They will get it.
They will spread it.
They just won't suffer badly, sadly.
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I think you have mis understood, people under 50 are very unlikely to get the vaccine at all unless they have an underlying health concerns.
Of course they can still catch it and spread it but this is no worse than flu to this group of people, the whole point of the vaccine is to prevent the health service being overwhelmed every time restrictions are lifted, by vaccinating the vulnerable this will be achieved without the cost and effort of vaccinating everyone.
 
BigT said:
I think you have mis understood, people under 50 are very unlikely to get the vaccine at all unless they have an underlying health concerns.
Of course they can still catch it and spread it but this is no worse than flu to this group of people, the whole point of the vaccine is to prevent the health service being overwhelmed every time restrictions are lifted, by vaccinating the vulnerable this will be achieved without the cost and effort of vaccinating everyone.
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The goal is to try and get 75% of the population vaccinated, a small but significant proportion of the population are vulnerable but can’t be vaccinated. Ideally a high proportion of the population need vaccinating to protect them.
 
BigT said:
I think you have mis understood, people under 50 are very unlikely to get the vaccine at all unless they have an underlying health concerns.
Of course they can still catch it and spread it but this is no worse than flu to this group of people, the whole point of the vaccine is to prevent the health service being overwhelmed every time restrictions are lifted, by vaccinating the vulnerable this will be achieved without the cost and effort of vaccinating everyone.
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Who says the under 50's are very unlikely to get the vaccine???
They are lower down the queue, and rightly so, but that means waiting, not that they won't get it.
 
rob666 said:
Who says the under 50's are very unlikely to get the vaccine???
They are lower down the queue, and rightly so, but that means waiting, not that they won't get it.
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Just spoke to my friend yesterday who works in healthcare and had a meeting with pfizer. Pfizer said that they are only expecting vulnerable to be vaccinated and wider population are unlikely to ever be offered the vaccine, that’s what they are working towards as a company. They have also said anyone immunocompromised will be unable to take the vaccine.
 
TPJames said:
Just spoke to my friend yesterday who works in healthcare and had a meeting with pfizer. Pfizer said that they are only expecting vulnerable to be vaccinated and wider population are unlikely to ever be offered the vaccine, that’s what they are working towards as a company. They have also said anyone immunocompromised will be unable to take the vaccine.
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I believe Oxford have been developing a new therapy that may help people who are immunocompromised and cannot have the vaccine. It's some kind of man-made antibody treatment using certain proteins that will attack the virus. If i find the article i will link it.

Edit: It's actually Astrazeneca developing it and they are starting human trials.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...trial-coronavirus-antibody-treatment-12137777
 
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