Disneyland Paris: General Discussion

Discussion in 'European Parks and Attractions' started by Maelstrom, 28th Apr 2014.

  1. Rob

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    I wouldn't imagine it is too difficult for a Disney park to make money. Yes they cost a lot to operate but equally they cost a lot to visit and guest spend per head must be higher than a lot of other theme parks. Problem is, they won't be making anywhere near as much money as usual.
     
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    A few tweets and pictures to illustrate just how quiet DLP is right now, perhaps a bit concerning.









    Further to the cancellation of the Jungle Book Jive show last week, the Rhythms of the Pride Lands Show has also been cancelled until further notice, with no explanation as to why.

     
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    The park is dead. Other parks aren't.

    What the hell.

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    I must admit, this really is baffling stuff given that Disney parks are usually busier than everywhere else...
     
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    I imagine Disney relies on a lot of visitors from the UK, Germany, Belgium etc. All of these countries have mandated Paris (including DLP) a high risk zone and anyone has to quarantine on return or get a negative PCR Test after visiting the park.

    It’s not exactly an incentive to go, I imagine travellers from other regions of France will also be being discouraged due to the higher numbers in Paris. So it’s probably only locals right now, similar to the situation we are seeing in the Florida Disney parks.
     
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    I suppose; I never really thought of the fact that they’ll be relying on international guests! Although even still, I would have thought that more French locals may possibly have gone...
     
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    I imagine many people also don’t want to pay full price for half the Disney experience and I don’t blame them.

    It’s a shame for the park but there’s nothing they can do about it unless they wanted to lower the price drastically to draw in guests
     
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    We’ve seen throughout the world that regional parks have had more successful reopenings than destination parks. For example, SWO & BGT are open later and with more event & festival offerings than Universal or Disney here in Florida right now.
     
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    I've not looked in to it myself but have heard that DLP have put their hotel prices up somewhat to help compensate for the losses due to limited capacity. Very concerning at how dead the park has been though; I just really hope that this does not put a nail in the coffin for the WDS Park development going forward.
     
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    Disney is not worth the price without the fireworks, parade, shows and character meets.
    Whereas smaller parks don’t offer fireworks every night and charge a lower admission price anyway. Why pay the Disney premium if you don’t get the full product.

    Also they relay on travellers to come to the parks and the travel restrictions must be causing issues.
     
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    Damn, that must have taken a lot of pva glue
     
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    Further operational cuts are on the way at DLP, the most drastic of which is Walt Disney Studios opening hours being reduced to 11am-4pm.

    Did Merlin take over when we weren’t looking? ;)

     
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    Ouch. And Disney Village shops/restaurants closed during the day!? Drastic is an understatement. :(
     
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    All Disney parks are hurting at the moment.

    I think they aren't worth the entry price without the shows, fireworks and parade so whats the point going.

    Whereas the Merlin parks are still offering pretty much their usual offering, or in the case of Oktoberfest more than they have been doing for the last few years.

    Disney parks in Paris and Florida just are not value for money at the moment. Combined with the fact that we can't visit USA or France right now the audience for the parks is massively reduced. Whereas the Merlin parks again don't really attract international guests.
     
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    Maybe the Disney Rip Off is finally hitting them hard.

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    The current issue is more that there are no price reductions to take into consideration the full product isn't being offered.

    I think the usual Disney park ticket price is reasonable considering the amount normally offered, the hours are usually long, there are parades most days, several shows and fireworks almost every night. Take away the fireworks & parades and the park is no longer worth paying a premium for.

    Hotels and other aspects have always been somewhat overpriced, but I think most hotels attached to theme parks are expensive. Although Disney possibly one of the worst, but Alton Towers Hotel can often feel more expensive.

    I think Disney do need to re-evaluate their pricing and a lot of their business models. Some of the add-ons are definitely a rip-off.
     
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    Would it not be more financially viable to just close? I know they've already lost a incomprehensible amount of money, but surely operating a theme park the size of DLP with such a small audience costs more with staffing etc than if being shut.

    It is very sad to see, but economically, the tourism industry is cardiac arrest at the moment, and although I imagine Disney has plenty of money in the war chest, it won't last forever.

    This all comes as it felt DLP was heading in the right direction too, I imagine this will certainly hurt even more in the future than what it does now...
     
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    I guess it depends what furlough and similar support there is in France. If they have the choice to close and furlough so the government pay staff then they would be better off closed.
    If the other option is to close and make everyone redundant then it probably isn't worth it. The current option of limited hours means at least some income to pay the staff with I guess.

    and Disney as a company probably don't have a lot in the war chest, they haven't really been able to release films at the cinema for the last six months, I don't think streaming Mulan will make what it did in the cinema. Other areas of the company are suffering too (no sport to show on ESPN tv etc) so overall many of their areas are restricted.
     
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    Disney dont have much in their war chest???
    Bet they do!
    Edit...$130,000,000,000 current value estimate.
    Not small change.
     

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