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Disneyland Paris: General Discussion

CGM said:
I might be in the minority on this but I don't agree with the decision to close. As terrible as the events of Friday were and whilst being respectful to the dead, I think it's also important to be thick skinned in some ways. Surely the best way to get past something like this is for everyone to get up and carry on as if nothing has changed. If the whole country goes into a state of mourning and everything shuts down for a number of days, the attackers have got exactly what they wanted.

If this had been something like an air disaster or a building collapse, there's no way DLP would be closing. So why let a few idiots create this sense of fear, sadness and paranoia. They've already done enough damage, people shouldn't have their holiday plans ruined because of it.

I feel it's another example of how powerful and out of control modern media has become. It just amplifies hysteria and turns everything into a needless melodrama.
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Totally agree. I can somewhat understand them closing for one day out of respect, but 4 days is overkill if you ask me. As you quite rightly stated, this could seriously ruin a family's holiday.
 
The country is in mourning. There may have been cast members caught up in it. Are the closures affecting you? No. Let the resort have a couple of days of closure out of respect if they want to. It sends out more of a message of respect than adding washed out colours to your Facebook profile
 
You mention the media, imagine the outcry from them, and the resulting PR disaster if they didn't close?

Besides, I can't imagine many people in Paris will really be in the mood for Disney, guests and staff alike.

Can't really compare a building collapse to multiple, coordinated mass killings either.
 
Martin said:
You mention the media, imagine the outcry from them, and the resulting PR disaster if they didn't close?
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I honestly don't think there would be any media outcry. Until I read this thread, the idea that Disney might be closing hadn't even crossed my mind so I doubt the world's press and social media would be too interested when they have much more significant stories to be focussing on.

When the 7/7 bombings happened, Alton and Thorpe didn't close. America's Disney parks did close on 9/11 but that was for security reasons and they were open the very next day. I doubt many other American parks closed at all. In these cases, there was no media backlash for lack of compassion.

Personally, I find the idea of external real world events affecting park operations to be a bit perverse. Theme parks in my mind are supposed to be an escape and as such should exist in their own little bubble. You go there to take your mind off the news and the everyday grind. Surely, if the places that people go to relax and have fun shut down, those responsible for these attacks have in some way succeeded in changing our way of life even if it's only for a few days.

I think that London after the 7/7 bombings showed extraordinary resolve. The next day, people boarded the tube as usual. Shops, restaurants and attractions were still open and after a short while, life was back to normal. It was no less respectful towards the victims, there were moments of silence held and memorial services. But the key thing was that London as a city shrugged off the attack and because of this it didn't work. Today, you just use the tube or the busses without even thinking about it, just as you could before.

Unfortunately, I don't think today's media circus allows for such a sensible reaction to pan out if an attack happens in any western city.

Martin said:
Can't really compare a building collapse to multiple, coordinated mass killings either.
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The outcome is no less devastating to the families and friends of the victims. When it comes to disasters on this scale, surely it's the actual loss of life that is tragic, not the mechanism through which it happened. France has experienced a number of disasters over the last decade, the most obvious example being flight 447 which killed far more people. But for some reason, because this can't be attributed to a nominal bogeyman, it's somehow perceived to be not as bad.

The worst thing we can do is turn the people responsible for this into monsters. They're not, they're just idiots who have had stupid ideas put in their heads.
 
Respect and safety in my eyes.

They tried to bomb a football stadium with thousands of people inside Disney would really be the next place to cause "terrorism".
 
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Just to point out the initial 2 day closure was out of Disney's hands - the government placed a closure order on any sporting arena, concert venue, theme park etc etc, any place where large groups of people may have been.

Admittedly Ive not kept up to date to know whether the further extension is either government enforced or Disney paying respects. Although Id imagine a lot of staff have been impacted by the events, so I can't blame them for making what must be an expensive decision.

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We have some friends who were there while the attacks happened. They had left the park and were in a hotel bar at the time, apparently the staff were phenomenal. They were informed that Disney Village was to close imminently, to contact family and say they were safe, they ended up back in their hotel bar where news was being shown on a screen and staff were giving out free drinks and offering support.
The bars were equally full of hotel staff and guests, all mourning and taking in the horrid events together.

Aside from the parks being closed, entertainment was provided in the hotels - characters, films and live music in the following days and free food offered. When they left, staff apologised profusely and hoped they would return to not just Disney but France.

To me it soundly like it was handled amazingly under the circumstances. Im so impressed.
 
I've deleted a couple of posts here. I know issues like this can cause a big difference in opinion but please remember to stay on topic and take any personal disagreements or digs off the forum and to PM. Thanks!

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-eur...ng&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central

A man has been arrested with two firearms at an entrance to a hotel at Disneyland Paris, French media report.

The 28-year-old is not known to security services and gave no resistance when he was detained, according to the reports.

Police sources said the man was also found with a copy of the Koran. He was stopped during a security check.

France remains in a state of emergency following the deadly Islamist attacks in Paris in November last year.
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Shocking, but fabulous work from the DLP security team. Shows how important security is to Theme Parks at the current moment in time, too.

Most seem unaffected by the incident in terms of putting off visits, many suggesting DLP has world-class security services and is potentially one of the 'safest places currently' to visit.

Great work DLP & security teams, you've prevented something potentially catastrophic.
 
I was there last week, their security is really tight. This goes to show they're on the ball constantly, and it's paid off. Credit to them, they're doing it right.
 
Unfortunately, if this was an incident that posed a real threat (ie organised by any terrorist group), he wouldn't have been stopped at the security counter. Sounds more like a nut job same as the knife attacker at the tube station the other week.

Given the current political climate, this is likely something we will have to get used to
 
Fourth star for Disney's Newport Bay Club

I was just looking down my news feed and noticed Disney's Newport Bay Club has re-gained it's fourth star after losing it a few years ago along with Disney's Sequoia Lodge. The article says the forth star was awarded as part of the major restoration plan the hotel is currently undergoing, Disneyland Paris had to fill 246 criteria with 226 points to be re-awarded its fourth star, bringing it in line with the Resorts other four star hotel, Disney's Hotel New York. A great achievement for Disneyland Paris and from my visit last year I can confirm the hotel was looking better than ever.

You can read the full article here: http://disneylandparis-news.com/en/4the-star-for-disneys-newport-bay-club/
 
If they'd bothered maintaining it suitably it would never have lost it.

Saying that, good to see the work paying off and Newport is a nice hotel.
 
Now, myself and @Kelpie stayed in Newport Bay back in '08, and even back then, before we had even heard of Europa Park, we found it .... how to put this without falling foul of the swear filter?... "A piece of dog poo" compared to even the basic Splash landings, which was our best reference at the time.
 
I was at Newport Bay Club last month and, whilst it didn't have the touch of Bell Rock, it was very nice indeed. The restaurant was excellent.

:)
 
siralgenon said:
Newport Bay Club is 10 times the size of Bell Rock and 20 years older, I wouldn't say it's doing bad in comparison.
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It is indeed.

I would argue that the size of DLP's hotels is actually one of the things I don't like about them.

However, Bell Rock has far, far more thematic detailing than Newport Bay Club does.

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This is just a rumour at present and Disney may not progress with the proposal, buuuut..:
Screamscape said:
A new Marvel themed project that many will find quite shocking is in the works... and it involves putting a Marvel theme over an existing Disney icon style attraction that has a lot of fans. Rumors of this are already starting to spread, and according to my sources the rumor has moved into discussions about parks that are quite simply not involved yet, or were not really ever intended to be involved. So what is it?

What would you say if I mentioned that a Guardians of the Galalxy themed retrofit of the existing Tower of Terror attraction had been pitched as a possible new Marvel themed attraction concept for Disney California Adventure and the Walt Disney Studios Paris parks? While you are picking up your jaw off the floor, yes... this is a real proposal. But that's it at this point... just an idea being proposed as a way to quickly add a Marvel attraction to DCA in time to take advantage of the Marvel Phase 3 film slate.

How will the Tower be rethemed to fit Guardians of the Galaxy? I really don't know... though the one theory that I've heard seems to try to use The Collector character (Benicio Del Toro) in a similar fashion to Lord Henry Mystic from Hong Kong Disneyland's Mystic Manor. Guests, passing through a vault of The Collectors' rare artifacts disturb something they shouldn't that sends them on a wild adventure.

Again... this is all just a proposal, and from what I'm hearing the concept has been pitched as both a permanent change as well as just a temporary overlay over the existing attraction.

Unfortunately the rumor mill got a hold of this way too soon, and have already started to spread rumors of the concept taking over the Florida Tower of Terror which is mechanically very different from the others and has evolved over the years into serving as the virtual icon of that entire park. In addition, many would be quick to point out that the Tower of Terror represents what many feel is the pinnacle of WDW attraction design. Now, this isn't to say that WDW doesn't know about the plan, as they do, and I'm sure they too have played the "What If?" game to see what would happen if they jumped on the bandwagon. So while anything is possible... this was not the original intent. Nor was sticking another clone in Tokyo DisneySea for that matter. So for now... this is all we know, and nothing has been decided anywhere for any attraction. It's just a proposal, so put away the torches and pitchforks for now.
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Surely this will just turn out to be a mad idea that never happens? Disney can't seriously be considering messing with one of the best theme park attractions ever thought up, even if it was just a temporary thing like Hyperspace Mountain at Disneyland.

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That's a hideous idea.

I remember talk of RnR being rethemed around Spiderman. That's a much better way to shoehorn Marvel in.
 
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