RustyShackleford
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Drayton Manor Park
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Themeparksandy1981
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Yes loading 1 side only. Think it was only open as the Bounty was closed for maintenance
Themeparksandy1981
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While walking round the park yesterday I was looking around the park to see other than the pirate adventure building where the next big investment could go and I remember the Managing director saying they could use land by Excalibur.
Instead of been on the left hand of the land could it be on the right side here.
Like the fun foods is still used at the front but the other food outlets have been closed for most of the season. The staff room could be relocated elsewhere in the park so could this be the area they maybe looking at next after the 2024 project?
Instead of been on the left hand of the land could it be on the right side here.
Like the fun foods is still used at the front but the other food outlets have been closed for most of the season. The staff room could be relocated elsewhere in the park so could this be the area they maybe looking at next after the 2024 project?
Alex_szoboszlai
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Heard shockwave is going through a phase two, sit down trains to replace the stand up but nothing about a track replacement. That style of track only lasts for around 30 years and with shockwave being 28 years old, I don’t see the ride lasting
What's your source for your information?
It's not a case of 30 years and out. Nemesis will have many more ride cycles on the clock than Shockwave, and Shockwave has a far less problematic support structure.
A new train would make a lot of sense but I'll believe it when I see it, I doubt it's a priority as things stand (no pun intended)...
Themeparksandy1981
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I think if it works well at sea world I would love for them to replace Shockwave trains with the new surf coaster trains and would fit the adventure cove theme better.
immelmanloop
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- The Wave (Ex Shockwave)
Yes but would they fit? I know its the same basic style, but factors such as track gauge, locations of chain dogs, brakes, depth and pitch of drive tyres ETC. make it a surprisingly difficult job to swap out trains. It would require at least some modifications, as surf coasters are meant to be launch not lift hill, and at the cost, it may be cheaper just to make it sit down, which has been done before, and thus has no R&D cost, uness there is a major issue.
Themeparksandy1981
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From: https://twitter.com/ThemeParkWW/status/1590434694306631680?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Was it the sign that was in the entrance arch?
Shaggy_Dog_
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From: https://twitter.com/ThemeParkWW/status/1590434694306631680?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Was it the sign that was in the entrance arch?
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It doesn't really matter, all those things can be adjusted, either on the train or the track for enough money. Whether Drayton is willing to spend that money for what return they might get I've got no idea.
I do however think any train replacement, at least in the short term, is quite unlikely.
I can’t see it. The stand up trains give a ride experience that disguise the abysmal layout. It’s a quick wham bam of two inversions, followed by a dull as you like straight bit of track, followed by two wham bam inversions, followed by a flat track, too fast, slamming in to the brakes. With a “normal” train, the flaws in the layout become very obvious and I think it’ll fall flat, quickly, with guest feedback. The stand up aspect is it’s only saving grace and I can’t see them investing in new trains just to save it for a few more years. Looping are clearly prepared to invest and I suspect they’ll try and keep it running as is for as long as possible before removal. They’ve realistically got to keep it limping along until whatever comes in 2024 is unveiled. This will give them time to plan for a replacement - whether in the same site or not. I suspect not. Their new CEO has already identified the lake / Excalibur site as probably future development. I can see the coaster collection being moved to the top end of the park to avoid the local housing estate on the shockwave side of the park. I think Drayton are doing the right thing at the moment - the nostalgic in me will miss shockwave as I love Drayton. But it’s way past it’s sell by date and if Drayton is going to grow, it probably needs to go, rather than patching it up with new trains on a dull track and fairly poor ride ride experience compared to modern ride technology.
Rick
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I'm not a Shockwave hater, it's fine. Arguably better than something like Dæmonen that has similar scale and more meandering.
For all its faults, Shockwave does what it does and not much else. I don't particularly care for stand up coasters but the roll alone makes it better than most of the others, for me.
For all its faults, Shockwave does what it does and not much else. I don't particularly care for stand up coasters but the roll alone makes it better than most of the others, for me.
DistortAMG
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The intamin stand up trains are identical chassis wise, apart from the person holding position, eg, standup or sitdown.
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RustyShackleford
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Am I right in thinking that there used to be two trains that ran on Shockwave?
Would it be feasible that if a second train was bought that it would be a sit down. This would provide the greatest increase in ride capacity at the lowest cost. Also a possibility that it increases the potential riders as a sit down may mean that it requires a lesser height restriction than the stand up?
I apologise to those better versed in the technicalities if this is a stupid suggestion!!
Would it be feasible that if a second train was bought that it would be a sit down. This would provide the greatest increase in ride capacity at the lowest cost. Also a possibility that it increases the potential riders as a sit down may mean that it requires a lesser height restriction than the stand up?
I apologise to those better versed in the technicalities if this is a stupid suggestion!!
Ian
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It would provide an increase to total capacity of the physical ride, yes. But unless you are mandating which train riders will be boarding at batching, you won’t necessarily improve the wait times.
You can assume that a portion of guests will only want to ride standup, and a portion only sit down. But fundamentally, if guests have that choice you will still only be servicing each queue with one train, the same as you are today. If one queue empty and the other has guests you’ll be cycling every other train empty.
As I say, the only real way I see around that would be the assign riders to a train and give no choice, essentially servicing one queue with two trains. But you only need to look at Hurakan Condor at PA to see how well that goes down with people…
You can assume that a portion of guests will only want to ride standup, and a portion only sit down. But fundamentally, if guests have that choice you will still only be servicing each queue with one train, the same as you are today. If one queue empty and the other has guests you’ll be cycling every other train empty.
As I say, the only real way I see around that would be the assign riders to a train and give no choice, essentially servicing one queue with two trains. But you only need to look at Hurakan Condor at PA to see how well that goes down with people…
