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Flamingo Land: General Discussion

@Matt N I think a visit to Flamingo Land is in order for you to witness the dire situation first-hand. There really is no exaggeration with Mingo's ops. This is a park where the ride-ops block rows off using nothing but deck chairs.
 
Is Flamingo Land sort of like the antithesis to Europa Park from an operations standpoint, then? In that its slow dispatches are noteworthy in the same vein that Europa’s fast dispatches are? (Or the opposite vein, should I say)

In fairness, though, I’d imagine Flamingo Land doesn’t have any Fastrack running given that it’s a smaller park, so the throughputs the rides attain go wholly towards the main queue, I’d assume?

Although with that being said, Oakwood runs Fastrack, and that park is smaller than Flamingo Land… they sold a lot of Fastrack, as every other train/car was being wholly dedicated to Fastrack riders on both Megafobia and Speed when I went there on a school trip, even though both were on only one train. Speed might have had 2 cars, actually, but Megafobia was definitely only on 1 train.
 
Nope, they have a fastrack system of sorts. Also their own version of RAP. I saw a photo of Mumbo Jumbo from a couple of years ago with an exit queue of about 40 people, probably took them nearly 30min to get on.
 
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Nope, they have a fastrack system of sorts. Also their own version of RAP. I saw a photo of Mumbo Jumbo from a couple of years ago with an exit queue of about 40 people, probably took them nearly 30min to get on.
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Yeah it's funny that their fast track system only includes 5 rides and has to be used an hour apart, while their access system includes most rides and does not have any time restrictions. Plus both use the exit ramp for the biggest rides. It even says on their respective web pages that there may be a queue up the exit on busy days. Ridiculous if you ask me!
 
If Flamingo Land’s throughputs are so low, how do they not get huge queues of multiple hours long on busy days?

The park must have less annual visitors than I’d thought… I’d always thought Flamingo Land was somewhere in the 1-1.5 million per year ballpark.
 
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The first time I rode Mumbo Jumbo they were getting less than 150/hr - Nemesis front row can beat that! The ride is set up for 2 car loading but I've never seen it do so. They started out with 5 cars, last time I was there only 2 were visible.
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There was your mistake, riding that horrid piece of scrap. Awful thing.
 
According to my friend who went to flamingo land this weekend, they asked a member of staff on velocity and they said they are hoping that Invers10n will be ready to open THIS WEEKEND COMMING!!! May not be true and just false information but hopefully this is the case. If it is opening this weekend then i thought they would’ve announced it and announced the confirmed name but we will have to wait and see.

Edit: Me personally i highly doubt it but if it is going to open this weekend it will be amazing.
 
I'm sure they would love to have it open for Jubilee weekend given the, for want of a better word, theming with Union Jacks, it would make perfect sense for them to want to open it then. It also isn't out of the realms of possibilities, some coasters have opened after only a relatively short amount of testing (although we don't know what testing has been done that hasn't been in public view), Zadra springs to mind as only having a couple of weeks testing before opening. I'll remain sceptical as to whether it actually will or not though.
 
I’ve never seen Kumali run both trains and I include August peak season.

Now that fastrack has entered the picture, I dread to think how slow the operations will be.
 
Probably the wrong time for Mingo to get bad publicity, but here we are.

Horrified families claim 'out of control travellers' trashed the campsite at theme park resort, left a four-year-old boy with a black eye and went toilet in the SHOWERS​


Shocked families have claimed their stay at a luxury theme park resort turned into the holiday from hell when rowdy guests destroyed the campsite, left a child with a black eye and defecated in the showers.

Holidaymakers left horrified reviews on Tripadvisor describing the anti-social behaviour of a group of 'travellers' at Flamingo Land in Kirby, North Yorkshire during the bank holidays in April and May.

The string of one and two-star ratings claimed visitors were greeted with 'chaos' as staff were reportedly unable to control parts of the site.

Families allege they were abused, had 'vile language' used against them and saw the resort left strewn with smashed glass and dog waste.

The disappointment culminated in one guest claiming their four-year-old was left 'with a black eye' for asking for his ball back, while another said families were escorted off the premises 'for their own safety'.

Along with multiple reports of antisocial behaviour at the theme park, the caravan campsite was said to be 'lawless' at night and 'left in a disgrace', with one livid reviewer saying 'if you want a family-friendly place, this is not the place to go'.

Flamingo Land's customer service team responded to complaints by apologising and saying their security team had worked 'tirelessly' with offenders being 'removed' from the site.

One visitor, who wished to remain anonymous, took his wife and two children to the caravan park for Easter bank holiday weekend in the hopes of a relaxing break, but quickly found that a few days of peace and quiet would not be on the cards.

The dad, who has a seven-month-old and six-year-old, said: 'The winter's my busy time with work, so it was a bit of a long weekend off for myself and the kids, and we thought, "Let's book somewhere, take the caravan and have a bit of time off".

'We got to the site, took a spot out of the way and set the caravan up. Within half an hour I knew we weren't going to have a relaxing stay.

'There were kids flying around on electric scooters and booting balls around, but it was the language that you heard from them as well.

'I said to my wife, "Have you heard the language on some of those kids?" 'F's, 'C's, everything, and that was within the first 30 minutes.'

The father-of-two, from North Yorkshire, said that while the daytime antics of the children made it difficult to relax, once the evening drew in things got much worse.

He said: 'It was another world. I think the best way to describe it would be like Appleby Fair.

'Me and the missus are in our 30s, we're not boring people. We'll have a drink and listen to some music, but as an adult there comes a time when that has to stop, because there's other people around you. It just went on all the way through the night.

'About half one in the morning the kids were driving around, blasting the car horn and shouting "Caravanners, wake up!"

'Then the adults were blaring music and swearing, and as they got more drunk they sounded more aggressive. It was one of those situations where you don't want to confront them because it'll make things worse.

'I know you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but when you turn up and the first thing you see is a pickup truck saying 'We Buy Scrap', it's a strong first impression.

'Normally when we take the six-year-old away she'd make friends with Freddie Kruger, and even she didn't want to go out and play, she just wanted to stay in the caravan with us. Then it got to the point where she wasn't going out of that caravan, because I wouldn't want her to get hit by an electric scooter or a car.'

While the young family tried to 'make their own entertainment' inside their caravan, eventually the situation became too much to take.

The father-of-two said: 'On Sunday we had one day left and me and the missus looked at each other and said, "We're going, we're not staying here another night".

'The little girl was upset, asking why we weren't going to the park, and as parents you feel guilty, but we just told a little white lie about the weather. I think that's better than saying that you're fearing for your safety.

'I felt unsafe for the children. If it was just me and my wife then we'd just ignore it, but we didn't want the kids around it.

'I know the stereotype is that travellers leave litter, but it was true here. One family a couple of caravans down from us left about six or seven big bags of rubbish when the skip was less than a thirty second walk away.

'Then the birds ripped the bags open and the rubbish is blowing everywhere, and you think, "Come on, you're bloody adults".

'At some point we just had to go for a walk, so we put the baby in the pushchair and walked over towards the leisure centre, and there was just glass everywhere.

'A football narrowly missed my wife's head and the guy just laughed. It was really bad.

'If you want to get a sense of the place, book a caravan for a day there and you'll experience it. It was awful.'

While he believes that the theme park itself was managed well enough, the same couldn't be said for the camping and caravan site, which he said Flamingo Land management had lost control of.

He said: 'I think the security they had on wouldn't dare say anything. They were only young lads, and they'd probably have got that much grief for it that they thought, 'Is this worth getting a right hook for?'

'They did have a little security cabin there but I only saw them once or twice. If I was them I probably wouldn't want to go over and say something to them either.

'It was just like being on a traveller site; it was lawless. Broken glass and dog muck.

'We had that moment parents have where you look at each other and say, 'That's enough'. It's one of those things you really want to forget, and I'll just say goodbye to the £300 I paid and put it down a drain. We won't be going back.'

One Tripadvisor reviewer, who had also stayed at Flamingo Land over Easter bank holiday, said that they had saved 'most of the year' for the trip to take their family of five.

The reviewer wrote: 'Wow, not got anything against the travelling community, as I have friends and family with them, this was a different breed; dirty, rude and overpowering.

'My son age four was left with a black eye all because they stole his ball and we asked for it back.

'They smashed the campsite tap off, they took a poo on the shower's floor, they pushed in front of the queue for rides, the kids' language was vile and the parents didn't give a damn. The campsite was just left in a disgrace.'

The Flamingo Land customer service team later responded to the negative Tripadvisor reviews and said: 'I am sorry that a small number of guests had such a negative effect on your stay at Flamingo Land.

'Our security teams were working tirelessly across the resort to respond to the issues you raise, throughout the weekend, with offenders being removed from site.'

North Yorkshire Police said it had received no reports of anti-social behaviour at Flamingo Land on Easter Bank Holiday or over May bank holiday.

Flamingo Land park executive Ross Snipp said: 'Our Customer Service team have responded to each of those guests addressing their concerns. We therefore have no further comments to make.'
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(source (don't shout at me because I quoted it above): https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...mpsite-luxury-theme-park-resort.html#comments)

Oh dear.
 
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