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Food & Beverage: The Aramark Era begins
jon81uk
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Even so, that would more likely be bar spend not restaurant spend where you aren’t in the venue long enough to sink £100+ in drinks per person.Are you familiar with alcoholism?
blackholes crow
TS Member
I've done that many a time on a good night outEven so, that would more likely be bar spend not restaurant spend where you aren’t in the venue long enough to sink £100+ in drinks per person.
Benzin
TS Member
Are you familiar with alcoholism?
On this website? Never.
They tend to linger in cheap drinks places though...at least that is what my wife tells me.Are you familiar with alcoholism?
smidgey
TS Member
If Towers ditches coke for Pepsi then I’ll be a very happy boy
From: https://x.com/towersstreet/status/1774143323457851658?s=46&t=GCQEa9x-nMVIUR3R0SLJiA
From: https://x.com/towersstreet/status/1774143323457851658?s=46&t=GCQEa9x-nMVIUR3R0SLJiA
Bert2theSpark
TS Member
If Towers ditches coke for Pepsi then I’ll be a very happy boy
From: https://x.com/towersstreet/status/1774143323457851658?s=46&t=GCQEa9x-nMVIUR3R0SLJiA
It'll be a supplier issue, a couple of seasons ago they were serving Costa in Starbucks cups because the delivery company sent the wrong stock to the wrong location...
I'd take Pepsi/Starbucks over Coca Cola stuff anyday though...
smidgey
TS Member
TS tagged coke in the twitter postThey will get the grumbles from Coke for that with them having Freestyle machines present. That's assuming Coke get wind of it ..

Yeah given the Freestyle machines give lots more choice compared to anything Pepsi offer then I’d assume it’s not going to happen

Subway just ditched Pepsi for coke in the UK but swapped the other way in the US randomly
I don't think serving both is something that would necessarily be an issue other than a bit of customer confusion. Serving one brand in the leading competitor's cup though is probably something absolutely forbidden in the brand contracts.Freestyle cups are run by Alton Towers retail (so Merlin) whereas F&B is Aramark - could both be available if they go for different deals?
Does KFC at Thorpe serve Pepsi? If so then there is already both available within one park, so not too out of the question.
Katy
TS Member
Burger King are Coke, KFC are Pepsi, at any park they are at, so at BPB (Pepsi park) you can get Coke from the Burger King.Freestyle cups are run by Alton Towers retail (so Merlin) whereas F&B is Aramark - could both be available if they go for different deals?
Does KFC at Thorpe serve Pepsi? If so then there is already both available within one park, so not too out of the question.
However, yes I'd expect that selling coke in a Pepsi branded cup is breaking some sort of contract they have.
DiogoJ42
TS Member
Yeah, this is a bad move. Anyone who's worked in a place that has a contract with Pepsi will know the pain of being legally obligated to respond to a customer asking for "coke" with, "is Pepsi OK?"
... Every. Single. Order.
(It never happens the other way round though).
... Every. Single. Order.
(It never happens the other way round though).
GooseOnTheLoose
TS Member
It's more than grumbles from Coke, it's yet another breach of their alcohol licence and falls foul of trade descriptions too.They will get the grumbles from Coke for that with them having Freestyle machines present. That's assuming Coke get wind of it ..
Have you checked that your drinks are accurately described? If you advertise the brand name of a drink then you must supply that brand of drink. Brand names can appear on bottles, optic stands, beer pump clips, price lists, menus etc. If a customer asks for a drink by the brand name, (for instance 'Pernod' or 'Coca-cola') and you have not got that brand, tell the customer if you offer an alternative. Substituting one brand of drink for another is a serious offence, whether it is a mistake or a deliberate action. Ensure that any promotional material around the bar is consistent with the brands you are currently selling.
Matt.GC
TS Member
Anyone who's ever encountered a Coca Cola Company or PepsiCo rep (same with Mars Wrigley vs Mondoleze), will know how much of a no no that is! It's not just illegal in the way @GooseOnTheLoose has described either.
The law changed after the Tesco accounting scandal around supplier payments, rebates, and marketing etc. Those Coke and Pepsi branded cups are as such for a reason. It'll be part of a supplier agreement, which means that both organisations are effectively paying, as part of the contract, to have their brand displayed. These kinds of practices have an effect on "fines" and rebates, so it's actually also an accounting issue.
I know this sounds rather silly, but you'd be surprised how complicated supplier and marketing agreements are with the likes of The Coca Cola Company, PepsiCo, Mars Wrigley, Mondoleze, Unilever, Muller Wiseman, and the Tobacco companies. It's not just as simple as buying off a supplier and selling it.
The law changed after the Tesco accounting scandal around supplier payments, rebates, and marketing etc. Those Coke and Pepsi branded cups are as such for a reason. It'll be part of a supplier agreement, which means that both organisations are effectively paying, as part of the contract, to have their brand displayed. These kinds of practices have an effect on "fines" and rebates, so it's actually also an accounting issue.
I know this sounds rather silly, but you'd be surprised how complicated supplier and marketing agreements are with the likes of The Coca Cola Company, PepsiCo, Mars Wrigley, Mondoleze, Unilever, Muller Wiseman, and the Tobacco companies. It's not just as simple as buying off a supplier and selling it.
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Steve74
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Maybe I'm just being too nice and a bit naïve here but this could've been down to an employee that when faced with the wrong cups being delivered and having no others, had no choice but to use them and doesn't even know about the rules about using them (of course that could be down to lack of training or the employee not taking any notice). I know that reason wouldn't stand up in a court of law but this could be all we're seeing here.I think we all know by now that Aramark simply don’t give a crap.
Packaging, licensing requirements, food hygiene ratings. They just have zero standards. Profit above everything.
They are still serving Coca-Cola Company drinks as advertised, but have for some reason ended up with a supply of Pepsi Max branded cups in the regular size.It's more than grumbles from Coke, it's yet another breach of their alcohol licence and falls foul of trade descriptions too.