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Tibble
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I feel bad for Nick, I think he was just a subject of the Red Bull brutality, Had a target on his back since the start of the season.. Am I happy that DR is back? Not overly, im sure he is a nice guy but I feel like Red Bull are just using him for as much marketing as possible
Danny
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Perez clearly has the pace on Sundays - there just seems to be something knocking his confidence recently when it comes to qualifying. He's still second in the championship - what more do Red Bull want if he finishes there at the end of the season behind Max?
Nyck should have been given the Williams seat over Logan. He's clearly a talented driver - he managed to take one of the slowest cars and get points on his debut at one of the fastest tracks, in addition to the proven pedigree he had before stepping into F1. Evidently, he is better suited to the Mercedes pool rather than the cutthroat of Red Bull, and it's really not fair that he hasn't been given the chance to prove himself over the long term. Obviously, Mick has that priority at Mercedes now, so I doubt Nyck will be given that opportunity again, which is beyond frustrating.
I think Alex should have another year or two leading at Williams where the small wins are going to contribute to his confidence massively. Once Lewis is gone, bring him up to the Merc seat; Mick and Nyck at Williams with an improved car would be an interesting combination.
IF Perez is dumped from the RB seat, I'd rather it go to Lando than Daniel. It's about time he was given something worthy of getting him his first win. I can see Yuki being eyed up as the eventual Alonso replacement at Aston for the token Honda gesture, which would nicely pave the way for Liam to get a proper seat on the grid with AT and leave Daniel to fester there until he retires. Bringing him back is nothing more than a PR spin it feels.
Nyck should have been given the Williams seat over Logan. He's clearly a talented driver - he managed to take one of the slowest cars and get points on his debut at one of the fastest tracks, in addition to the proven pedigree he had before stepping into F1. Evidently, he is better suited to the Mercedes pool rather than the cutthroat of Red Bull, and it's really not fair that he hasn't been given the chance to prove himself over the long term. Obviously, Mick has that priority at Mercedes now, so I doubt Nyck will be given that opportunity again, which is beyond frustrating.
I think Alex should have another year or two leading at Williams where the small wins are going to contribute to his confidence massively. Once Lewis is gone, bring him up to the Merc seat; Mick and Nyck at Williams with an improved car would be an interesting combination.
IF Perez is dumped from the RB seat, I'd rather it go to Lando than Daniel. It's about time he was given something worthy of getting him his first win. I can see Yuki being eyed up as the eventual Alonso replacement at Aston for the token Honda gesture, which would nicely pave the way for Liam to get a proper seat on the grid with AT and leave Daniel to fester there until he retires. Bringing him back is nothing more than a PR spin it feels.
IanB
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I feel for Nyck, but Alpha Tauri was never a good fit for him and he must of known what he was getting in to. He had to be matching or beating Yuki from the start, and he has not done that. He is 28, so he was hardly going to be given as long as the younger drivers coming through.
Perez has been lucky in the sense that he has driven a Red Bull which can make its way through the field, where as Albon and Gasly did not have that luxury, so if they did not get the most out of qualifying, they were stuck. Now Red Bull have a decent car, its easier for Perez to recover when he has a poor qualifying performance.
I would love to see Dennis Hauger get the Alpha Tauri (Name TBC) seat for next season. I think the next half of the season could shape Yuki's career. If he can beat Daniel Ricardo, I think that puts him in a really good place for having his chance in Red Bull next season. I am not sure he is ready for it, but as Danny mentions above, are Red Bull going to want him taking a seat up in the Alpha Tauri, if he is potentially going to end going to Aston Martin in a few years?
It is going to be interesting to see how the driver market shapes up over the rest of the season.
Perez has been lucky in the sense that he has driven a Red Bull which can make its way through the field, where as Albon and Gasly did not have that luxury, so if they did not get the most out of qualifying, they were stuck. Now Red Bull have a decent car, its easier for Perez to recover when he has a poor qualifying performance.
I would love to see Dennis Hauger get the Alpha Tauri (Name TBC) seat for next season. I think the next half of the season could shape Yuki's career. If he can beat Daniel Ricardo, I think that puts him in a really good place for having his chance in Red Bull next season. I am not sure he is ready for it, but as Danny mentions above, are Red Bull going to want him taking a seat up in the Alpha Tauri, if he is potentially going to end going to Aston Martin in a few years?
It is going to be interesting to see how the driver market shapes up over the rest of the season.
This comment is ageing well.
Ricciardo's previous F1 teammates:
Karthikeyan (HRT)
Liuzzi
Vergne (Torro Rosso)
Vettel (Red Bull)
Kvyat
Verstappen
Hulkenberg (Renault)
Ocon
Norris (McLaren)
I make that 1 teammate he was outshone by (Norris) and another he was there or thereabouts with (Verstappen - no doubt Verstappen would outshine him now but in 2018 there was little to tell them apart).
If you really think that Ricciardo was "embarrassed" by any of the others then I think we must each have a very different view of what an embarrassment is.
pluk
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If it wasn't clear by 'lost', this was a comment on recent form, having had excellent form previously. To have been able to lose form you obviously must have had it initially! Slip of the finger there with 'all' of his other teammates, only meant the last couple.
For the last couple of years he has been a notably bad driver, not getting anything out if the car and quite sloppy in races, when he was brought in on the big bucks to be the lead. I think it is fair to say he left both his last teams under bit of a cloud of having underachieved for them.
I wouldn't have employed him over many other options out there, and would rather someone new had been given the current seat in what is designed to be a feeder team for Red Bull, especially as I don't know if Perez's gap to Max is going to be tolerated much longer...
pluk
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Yeah, that's fair. In my head he had been weaker vs his previous three teammates than was the case or that the stats support. Probably largely because of the way Max started dominating him by the end, the failing of his move to Renault as a whole, followed by the extent of the gap to Norris. I still think he seemed to be the master of his own misfortune on a disproportionate number of occasions though. And all that time he has been commanding the big boy money when I can't see him up there with the clear first drivers. I know that, rightly or wrongly, since Red Bull I've frequently wondered what he was thinking at the end of a race.
Still, only 6 places behind the mighty Tsunoda today.
*Dont bite, I know it's like his third day in the car! Will be interesting to see how quickly he catches him and if he does prove to be significantly or consistently the stronger driver. I have my doubts, but would be very happy to see him succeed, I like him and having him in the sport as a whole.
IanB
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Not the best race, but one which will be long remembered.
From: https://youtu.be/9wiQqcKUahc?si=4fnasFacLQmCKNOE
Lando's first win, and what a performance from him. McLaren had the quickest race car, and Lando was the quickest driver. He did not make any mistakes in the race, and if there is anyone who deserved a little good luck, it was Lando.
Hopefully this continues in Imola, and it was not just a one off. If the Ferraris, McLarens and RedBulls are this close for the rest of the season, it is going to make for a very interesting season moving forward.
Race Control made a mess of the safety car, picking up the wrong car. This would of made it very tight whether Lando would of got out ahead of Max. The bigger issue though, and I assume McLaren did not have a decent set of Mediums, was that after Lando pitted, because he was not behind the safety car, he then had a big enough gap to pit a second time, and put the faster Mediums on, which really would of given him a nice advantage over the others.
Its a shame we had the safety car, Landos pace was so good (Lapping faster on used Mediums compared to new Hards on max) that he was going to close the gap, and have a really good chance of passing Max for the win on track, and Hards which had done less laps. That would of made the win even more special but as I said, it was still a well deserved win for Lando, and I dont think anyone is sad about this result.
Yuki has gone under the radar this weekend, and while his finish in the spring race was overshadowed by Danny Ric finishing in 4th, its worth nothing the Yuki started the sprint in 15th, and managed to finish in 8th, keeping Lewis behind for most of the race when his soft tyres were past there best. In the race, he finished a solid 7th, and apart from a small mistake early in the race where he ran wide and let Russell past, he dove a solid race, put up a good defence against Lewis who was on the medium tyres, and pulled a decent gap to Russell. Yuki is now 10th in the standings, on 14 points, and only 13 points behind Lewis.
From: https://youtu.be/9wiQqcKUahc?si=4fnasFacLQmCKNOE
Lando's first win, and what a performance from him. McLaren had the quickest race car, and Lando was the quickest driver. He did not make any mistakes in the race, and if there is anyone who deserved a little good luck, it was Lando.
Hopefully this continues in Imola, and it was not just a one off. If the Ferraris, McLarens and RedBulls are this close for the rest of the season, it is going to make for a very interesting season moving forward.
Race Control made a mess of the safety car, picking up the wrong car. This would of made it very tight whether Lando would of got out ahead of Max. The bigger issue though, and I assume McLaren did not have a decent set of Mediums, was that after Lando pitted, because he was not behind the safety car, he then had a big enough gap to pit a second time, and put the faster Mediums on, which really would of given him a nice advantage over the others.
Its a shame we had the safety car, Landos pace was so good (Lapping faster on used Mediums compared to new Hards on max) that he was going to close the gap, and have a really good chance of passing Max for the win on track, and Hards which had done less laps. That would of made the win even more special but as I said, it was still a well deserved win for Lando, and I dont think anyone is sad about this result.
Yuki has gone under the radar this weekend, and while his finish in the spring race was overshadowed by Danny Ric finishing in 4th, its worth nothing the Yuki started the sprint in 15th, and managed to finish in 8th, keeping Lewis behind for most of the race when his soft tyres were past there best. In the race, he finished a solid 7th, and apart from a small mistake early in the race where he ran wide and let Russell past, he dove a solid race, put up a good defence against Lewis who was on the medium tyres, and pulled a decent gap to Russell. Yuki is now 10th in the standings, on 14 points, and only 13 points behind Lewis.
windoesnot
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An emotional night as a long time McLaren fan, finally Lando didnāt choke under pressure and the way he just drove away from Max was just like how Max does to everyone else.
Iāve said for a long time that once he finally wins a race his self confidence will pick up which Iāve always seen as his biggest weakness. Just a shame Oscar had a poor end result as he was excellent in the first part of the race. Hopefully there will be more of a fight at the front now.
A lovely touch to Gil afterwards and found it very fitting that in the week of the 30th anniversary of Sennaās death it was the team he most famously drove for picked up the win.
Iāve said for a long time that once he finally wins a race his self confidence will pick up which Iāve always seen as his biggest weakness. Just a shame Oscar had a poor end result as he was excellent in the first part of the race. Hopefully there will be more of a fight at the front now.
A lovely touch to Gil afterwards and found it very fitting that in the week of the 30th anniversary of Sennaās death it was the team he most famously drove for picked up the win.
Jb85
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@windoesnot i really see the Max domination continuing this season, but itās the fight for second thatāll be closer. Max will win more often then not in that car.
Next season though, well, I canāt wait. I expect a four team fight
Next season though, well, I canāt wait. I expect a four team fight
If Max doesnāt win in Canada this week Iāll start to think thereās a genuine chance we could actually have a battle for the drivers championship this season, weāve already had more race winners (4) than all of last season.
Next seasonās grid slowly sorting itself out, my predictions:
Red Bull - Verstappen and Perez
Ferrari - Leclerc and Hamilton
McLaren - Norris and Piastri
Mercedes - Russell and Antonelli
VCarb - Ricciardo and Lawson
Alpine - Gasly and Tsunoda
Haas - Ocon and Bearman
Sauber - Bottas and Hulkenberg
Williams - Albon and Sainz
Next seasonās grid slowly sorting itself out, my predictions:
Red Bull - Verstappen and Perez
Ferrari - Leclerc and Hamilton
McLaren - Norris and Piastri
Mercedes - Russell and Antonelli
VCarb - Ricciardo and Lawson
Alpine - Gasly and Tsunoda
Haas - Ocon and Bearman
Sauber - Bottas and Hulkenberg
Williams - Albon and Sainz