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Hansa-Park: general discussion

It's surely a mixture of both parties, as has been said before. There's a certain innate vibration to the ride system anyway if Karacho is anything to go by, and that's a competent but considerably more tame coaster than The Smiler (it felt like it could have been very intense indeed without the launch watered down, but that's for another topic). I think a Smiler clone built on a properly prepared site and with a rolling strip-and-rebuild programme for the trains would still shake riders about to some extent, and the construction cock-ups greatly compound that issue.

Some blatant touting for votes there @Cheese ;)

:D

On a serious note though, they really need to make sure that drop is smooth given it's size and profile.
 
I don't need to tout. I get 'most serious' nominations every year anyway. :)
 
Some new photos from the building blog:

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Arghhhhh to much concrete!! I really do think they are trying to build a clone of Coventry here.

I'll be shocked if this opens before the summer now also.

:)
 
There have been a few more (concrete) updates to the Karnan building blog, I shall post a selection below.

Lots and lots of track; sitting, waiting with nothing to do:
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I honestly have no idea what these pillars are going to be for:
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This just looks a mess:
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Still no more track here:
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They have taken much inspiration from The Smiler...
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Every time I see photos of this my concerns rise. We know Gerstlauer are more than capable of a very rough coaster and I can't help but feel the groundwork for this looks messy. It's also going to be the world's ugliest coaster until it is themed in 2016.

Also, a few more bits of information from the website:
  • KÄRNAN’s ascent tower steel construction and how it is taking shape can now be watched in the time-lapse movie "KÄRNAN - The Story continues“
  • KÄRNAN will have a specifically composed and recorded soundtrack played by a film and symphony orchestra
  • KÄRNAN’s spell will determine at the loading platform who will sit where in the cars
  • KÄRNAN will have a single rider line but no front row line
  • KÄRNAN will require about 200 supports outside the buildings.
  • KÄRNAN’s top speed will be about 127 km/h. (79 mph)
  • KÄRNAN’s ride time will be around three and a half minutes.
Here is said time lapse video:



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Hansa, as a lot of you probably already know, make bloody good theme music.


And theming or no theming, I'm going to have to get up there this year. Listening to that soundtrack has made my mind up.
 
There have been a fair few additional new photos added to the Karnan mini-site since the last update, here are a few of them. WARNING: MORE CONCRETE AHEAD!!

This might be where the station could go:
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I'm starting to think they are trying to make the entire coaster indoors...:
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A rare area with no huge concrete base or concrete walls:
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I don't know why but the sheer amount of concrete in this project is starting to annoy me! I know it will all be themed eventually but it just worries me.

Also, a couple more facts from the website:
Hansa Park said:
- KÄRNAN‘s lift hill will be installed in March.
- KÄRNAN‘s station will be built in March and it will be waterproof.

Great to know that the station will be waterproof!

:)
 
Waterproof? Is that some kind of joke?

Is this coaster behind schedule? It feels like it.
 
God knows how much this is costing with all the concrete, surely there could have been a cheaper way to build whatever they're doing without using such an expensive material. I'm not suggesting they do a PA and build it out of polystyrene but this just looks beyond expensive.
 
I am trying to recall if Novgorod was concrete.

I have to say though, Novgorod is excellent - absolutely first class. In terms of "thrill" coasters in Europe - it's easily top 5 when it comes to theming and experience!

The kiddie coaster at Hansa-Park is also excellently themed.

:)
 
Could they have not used metal beams to build the tower and station though and concreted the facade instead of solely using concrete? The theming must be costing more than the coaster itself.
 
It probably is, but then - many parks in Germany spend more on theming/landscaping than on the physical track (see Black Mamba for another example).

:)
 
A quick look on RCDB shows that Fluch was also built with concrete...

One would not be surprised if Hansa would use concrete because of the sea-side location, and thus meaning that any taller buildings are more likely to stand the test of time over many years...

Hansa are really looking forward, especially in terms of theming and buildings... Their entranceway looks fantastic...
 
Concrete is probably a cheaper building material than metal. It's very good for construction and just as easily covered as a metal construction would be.
 
Is it just me, or is Phantasialand further ahead with their coaster for next year than Hansa is with their coaster for this year.

Though if Schlange Von Midgard is anything to go by they'll be perfectly happy to open it in half-finished state.
 
Indeed, Phantasialand are further ahead with their coaster it seems! However this is not going to open with any theming this year - it will be themed for 2016.

:)
 
Die Schlange von Midgard was basically IKEA - The Ride, when we rode it on "opening" day!

:D
 
Well, this looks... Sturdy? Good old Gestlauer and their crazy supports!

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As @Craig said in conversation earlier... It looks like the framework for a giant marquee! :\
 
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