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Incident on The Smiler 02/06/2015
sianmann88
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Interesting, that's what happened June 2nd wander if they are testing all scenariosPossibly. Interestingly, the next train was at the top of the first lift hill for 5-10 minutes then. Assumed they were going to test the reverse on that but then it was sent round the track.
Sm1lingAdvocate
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the fin brakes are being put up occasionally though apparently so they could just not use them.
Paul
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Interesting, that's what happened June 2nd wander if they are testing all scenarios
Potentially yes. If that's the case they could still have a lot left to do investigating the events, meaning it won't be open any time soon.
Sm1lingAdvocate
TS Member
They reversed it on the first lift yesterday as well 
Tom
TS Member
Does this suggest that the crash was indeed caused by them putting the chain forward instead of backwards by accident then?
An interesting theory which I hadn't considered.
I don't think it confirms anything though, they're more likely trying to eliminate the probability and duration of any stoppages whatsoever. The lift hill stop on press night was a moderately-big deal in terms of media coverage. Imagine one now, the effect would be amplified massively.
Have the other three infinity coasters had these new safety features added?
I'm sure that any findings that the HSE investigations throws up, additional safety level will be implemented by the HSE of all rides safety in the future.
delta79
TS Member
I had a very interesting conversion with retiring H&S consultant from work this morning. He was talking about partial operation allowance. Where limited operation can take place. E.g. running a system without human payload. For testing, training and verification of new safety equipment and procedures.
He speculated that the operating we are seeing could be testing, training and verification, of the planned safety upgrades.
He speculated that the operating we are seeing could be testing, training and verification, of the planned safety upgrades.
Graeme
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But on that basis every one of us risks our lives doing normal routine things, as a part of our daily lives/jobs.
Reporting it as something that risked lives of the workers suggests it's a risk that is unusual or unique to the accident. Which it wasn't.
Driving a vehicle on blue lights is an unusual risk to anyone. Working on a make shift platform is an unusual risk to anyone.
Just because "it's what they get paid to do " doesn't mean they haven't risked their lives. I applaud the emergency services response as have the victims.
delta79
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Pre hospital care is a field of work where you do it, well in a field, bedroom, boardroom, on the streets or up on scaffolding, anywhere it is needed. Working at height is awkward with the equipment needed both for the medical and fire service staff. A bottle of medical oxygen pressurised to 40 ish PSI is a danger to all if it slides and gets damaged.
The cutting equipment is heavy enought to kill if it fell. This causes a dangerous working environment at the scene.
Then there is the blue light response driving. How many times have you (if you drive) had blue light head towards you from the front or back and panicked, when people panic they do stupid and dangerous things. And this make response driving on blue lights a highly dangerous practice. Although response drivers are highly trained to lower the dangers, it is still very risky.
The cutting equipment is heavy enought to kill if it fell. This causes a dangerous working environment at the scene.
Then there is the blue light response driving. How many times have you (if you drive) had blue light head towards you from the front or back and panicked, when people panic they do stupid and dangerous things. And this make response driving on blue lights a highly dangerous practice. Although response drivers are highly trained to lower the dangers, it is still very risky.
ASturge21
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I'm starting to worry with all this testing what happened on the 2nd June is more than just human error or the system failing to detect a stalled car it may actually be an underlying flaw with the op system or the issue of stalling cars was never probably fixed and now may pose a real danger to the rides future as another stall close after re-opening would be catastrophic and maybe the reverse on the lift hill is quite sporadic pre accident to when it actually reversed the ride and not actually send it forward. I cant help but think Merlin and gerst were too optimistic with the ride I believe if the ride was built with 13 inversions stalling might not have been as frequent of an issue.
phildenholm
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I think they are just testing absolutely everything and they are likely doing engineer training too. If there has been human error everyone that ever has any at all to do with the ride needs to be retrained from the ground up as is it was new. Still got everything crossed
ASturge21
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I wonder if it was too easy too put the lift hill to go forward when you meant to reverse it.I think they are just testing absolutely everything and they are likely doing engineer training too. If there has been human error everyone that ever has any at all to do with the ride needs to be retrained from the ground up as is it was new. Still got everything crossed