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London Entertainment Resort: All Discussion

All these comments about where in the country would be better for a themepark entirely miss the point of this site. It's just by Ebsleet international train station with a direct and quick link to DLRP and actual Paris. The domestic market is only a part of what they are/were chasing, with Europe and a two center theme park destination being a big part of it. Nowhere in the country offers that sort of easy access to so many international visitors.

It is undeniably an excellent location to for such a development, much better than anywhere in the country I can think of.
 
pluk said:
All these comments about where in the country would be better for a themepark entirely miss the point of this site. It's just by Ebsleet international train station with a direct and quick link to DLRP and actual Paris. The domestic market is only a part of what they are/were chasing, with Europe and a two center theme park destination being a big part of it. Nowhere in the country offers that sort of easy access to so many international visitors.

It is undeniably an excellent location to for such a development, much better than anywhere in the country I can think of.
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Eurostar isn't enough though, not nearly. It reaches too few places and has too small overall capacity to make even a dent in the numbers of guests a resort like would need.

If you're serious about being a worldwide destination, you build near an airport; you're basically the wrong side of London.
 
Also Eurostar haven't stopped at Ebbsfleet since lockdown 1, they are saying they will restart next year however since seats must be empty from St Pancras, prices will be similar to from St Pancras.
 
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Transport wise, I'm still of the view that it's still in a completely inappropriate area considering the existing mess of traffic around there. Sure you can throw in Eurostar, but there's still a huge proportion of people that will travel by road, and despite the river boat "deal" you've still got to factor in public transport via bus from train stations and airports.
 
Craig said:
Transport wise, I'm still of the view that it's still in a completely inappropriate area considering the existing mess of traffic around there. Sure you can throw in Eurostar, but there's still a huge proportion of people that will travel by road, and despite the river boat "deal" you've still got to factor in public transport via bus from train stations and airports.
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Yes I'm of this view too. I just don't think there is the links in that spot, even with the boat transport. Sure these links could technically come in time however that time is going to affect there potential attendance for a decent number of years after opening. It just doesn't make any business sense to build a theme park of that scale without the transport links or in fact in that area at all.
 
This place is in a corner of the country that almost completely alienates the vast majority of the UK population. Let's not use DLP as an example of the perfect business model because it's been anything but!

Building an expensive park miles away from the capital city that bears it's name whilst mostly disregarding the domestic market under the assumption that they'll just go along with it and cough up anyway is rediculous. A huge proportion of this "proposed" parks prospective visitors would need to be domestic to be viable.

Imagine being Dutch, German, French, Portuguese or Spanish and planning a holiday to the Swanscombe Peninsula? With Eurostar being pretty much a business disaster, they'd be far better planning on getting a cheap flight into Birmingham, Manchester or Bristol if there was a park worth visiting. Only main difference being, if it was in the midlands or the north with good motorway links, it'd more likely be backed up by a healthy domestic audience as well.
 
I still think either South Wales or Central Scotland would have been a much better call. Local markets without decent close by parks and connections available to major cities with decent populations. Bonus being the local transport isn't overwhelmed already by the usual traffic.
 
Poisson said:
I still think either South Wales or Central Scotland would have been a much better call. Local markets without decent close by parks and connections available to major cities with decent populations. Bonus being the local transport isn't overwhelmed already by the usual traffic.
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I'm puzzled as to how you've come to that conclusion when both markets have struggled to sustain even small regional parks.
 
WillPS said:
Eurostar isn't enough though, not nearly. It reaches too few places and has too small overall capacity to make even a dent in the numbers of guests a resort like would need.

If you're serious about being a worldwide destination, you build near an airport; you're basically the wrong side of London.
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I’m not sure that this is entirely true.

Swanscombe peninsula is about a half an hour drive from London City Airport, it’s 40 minutes from Gatwick - that’s hardly much of a difference from the distance from Orlando airport to Universal and Disney and then you have the additional rail links which you don’t have in Orlando. If you build a world class resort I don’t think anyone who needs to access it by plane is going to have an issue with a 30-40 minute car ride from the airport (or just over an hour on the train).

The issue surrounding the park isn’t really transport links, it’s the absolute mess of a plan which looks like something we’d knock up on Planet Coaster, it’s actually probably less impressive than much of what I see people create on that game.
 
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There's somehow more discussion about this project that has never got off the ground than about Legoland Windsor which is very real and has had plenty of investments to discuss in the same time!
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Also worth noting there have been 4 new Legoland Parks built since this topic first started and undoubtedly many more will open before it ends.
And all of them combined have had less discussion :p
 
Thameslink Rail said:
There's somehow more discussion about this project that has never got off the ground than about Legoland Windsor which is very real and has had plenty of investments to discuss in the same time!
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Legoland to be fair is aimed at younger children so it's hardly that shocking.
 
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