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New world's tallest coaster?

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Woke up this morning to see an update from Screamscape regarding a 650 foot tall roller coaster and observation tower being considered for Las Vegas:

???? - PolerCoaster - Proposed - (6/19/13) The local news reports that US Thrill Rides LLC has submitted plans to the FAA to build a 650 foot tall tower in Las Vegas. If all goes as planned, this could be their very first “Polercoaster” attraction, mixing a combination of an obversation tower experience with elevators that run up the center, with a roller coaster system (S&S El Loco) that would run in and around the tower’s legs. The coaster uses a spiral lift up the center around the elevators and tops out just below the belly of the observation deck and begins a fast and wild rapid descent back down and around the outer section of the tower. According to the location sent in to the FAA, the Polercoaster’s location would be somewhere at the Tropicanna casino, or very close by. While the 650 foot tower would still be smaller than the Stratosphere Tower, the coaster itself would end up being the tallest roller coaster in the world.


If I recall, S&S revealed the idea to combine a roller coaster with a tower at last year's IAAPA in Orlando. Anyway, Screamscape's source is an article from the Las Vegas Review Journal:

Full scream ahead: Company proposes 650-foot-tall roller coaster on Strip

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U.S. Thrill Rides LLC has submitted plans to the Federal Aviation Administration in April to build the 650-fot-tall Polercoaster, the company's name for a scream machine that combines an observation tower with a coaster on the way up and down.

The Polercoaster thrill ride and observation tower is shown in this rendering provided by Orlando-based US Thrill Rides. The company has applied for FAA clearance to build a 650-foot tower at the Tropicana.


By TIM O’REILEY
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
As Las Vegas turns to high-adrenaline rides to freshen its appeal to visitors, one developer has quietly started to move ahead with a roller coaster that would look down on all but one building on the Strip.

U.S. Thrill Rides LLC has submitted plans to the Federal Aviation Administration in April to build the 650-foot-tall Polercoaster, the company’s name for a scream machine that combines an observation tower with a coaster on the way up and down. Because of the height and location — a map with the application shows it at the Tropicana — the agency must assess any potential hazard posed to the planes flying in and out of nearby McCarran International Airport.

Because the FAA is still evaluating the project, critical pieces such as financing and a firm deal on the site still have not fallen into place.

However, U.S. Thrill Rides President Michael Kitchen said the company has held discussions with banks willing to furnish loans for the Polercoaster, with an estimated cost approaching $100 million.

He declined to comment on the location. A spokeswoman for Tropicana did not comment.

“This will be the tallest roller coaster in the world,” he said. “Since Las Vegas is one of the top tourist destinations in the world, we think it will get higher visibility and foot traffic than other places.”

Windmere, Fla.-based U.S. Thrill Rides has built about 300 rides, many of them roller coasters for amusement parks. Company founder and CEO Bill Kitchen, Michael Kitchen’s father, said he conceived the Polercoaster idea as a way to add a thrill ride to an existing destination that lacks much open land.

“It goes very high, so you get an enormous amount of thrill from a very small amount of space,” Bill Kitchen said. “Using a couple of acres that you would need for a regular roller coaster would be out of reach on the Strip because of the cost.”

The Polercoast would resemble something like the Stratosphere tower, with a round top that would including dining, retail and an observation deck. The Stratosphere, at 1,149 feet, would still be far taller.

On the Strip, only the unfinished Fontainbleau resort at 735 feet has gone higher than the proposed Polercoaster; the Palazzo would be 8 feet shorter.

Polercoaster’s center core would contain two glass elevators to the top for people who just want to look but not ride. Around that would run a regular spiral track to guide the eight self-propelled passenger cars to the top. Outside of that and the structure’s supporting pillars would be downhill ride, including several twists, turns and loops.

Altitude has become something of the new theme for inducing tourists to leave more of their money in Las Vegas. The attractions include:

■ The Slotzilla zip line, now under construction on Fremont Street.

■ A hybrid zip line and ski lift that would whisk visitors from the top of one tower at Rio to the other and back. The FAA approval became final on Saturday.

■ The 550-foot High Roller observation wheel that Caesars Entertainment is building just off the Strip next to the Flamingo as part of The Linq.

■ A multi-stage zip line connecting MGM Resorts International’s Luxor and Excalibur resorts. A company spokeswoman said the project is in the design phase after a monthslong process in which the FAA decertified a heliport on the Excalibur’s roof that was an obstacle to approving the zip line.

U.S. Thrill Rides currently does not operate a ride in Las Vegas but had the Sky Screamer ride in the mid-1990s that was part of the now-dismantled amusement park at the MGM Grand.

There's also a video on that page so make sure to check that out.


I'd love to see this thing get built. It's a pretty quirky idea and I'm sure it'd look impressive!
 
This would basically be a HUGE outdoor Eurosat.

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Probably the worst punned coaster name of all time! :p

I would say that one of the drops near the top looks insane, and it would probably be doubly so considering how high up you are.
 
When I saw "650 ft coaster" I initially thought of a giant Kingda Ka, or something genuinely colossal. In actuality, that video made the project look rather dull. The lift will take forever to get to the top, and with it only being little drop after little drop it doesn't seem as thrilling as you'd assume.

I think there's a chance it could happen. But it's not interesting enough to get me to Vegas.
 
I get the impression that if this coaster happened, there would need to be heavy trims all over it. I would hate that as the idea of a steadily controlled descent goes against what coasters are about for me. It's difficult to tell from the video as the way the cars move in the animation doesn't resemble real world physics at all.

I really dislike coasters that are built just to break records and that do so at the expense of it being a good coaster. Formula Rossa's a good example. It has the world's fastest launch straight into a run of trim brakes leaving it to trundle round the rest of the course. What's the point?

All that said, I do quite like the S&S El Loco and it could be an interesting project. In reality, the tower is the main attraction and its relatively small footprint limits the size of the coaster. It's just a bit disappointing to have a 650ft coaster that can't make use of its height properly.
 
Ermmm it looks nothing like what I first thought, which is disappointing because its pointless
 
Bit confused about why everyone is being so negative about this project! It looks vastly more interesting to me than the current height record holders, TTD and KK.

People who say this project is gimmicky... TTD and KK are the dictionary definition of gimmicky! They use the absolute minimum amount of track length and ride time to break the record, and they're blink-and-you'll-miss-it. Like Oblivion, TTD and KK are barely coasters... this will see the height record to return to a proper, rounded rollercoaster... sorry, polercoaster. ;)
 
Interesting concept. If it goes ahead then I'd imagine the coaster will be somewhat different to what is shown in that video for numerous reason. For starters the throughputs would be horrific whereas the attraction would probably be immensely popular. The coaster in the video also has extremely unnatural movements.

In terms of gimmicks, I suppose it is easy to say that any record is just a gimmick. But records are always trying to be broken in many different subject areas. I don't mind it, it allows for boundaries to be pushed. Plus for me, the taller the coaster the higher the fear factor.

:)
 
BowMan said:
I'd feel disappointed if the tallest ride in the world was that.

Rather than the 0.0047 second flash-in-the-pan that is Kingda Ka...?

This would be the first proper coaster since Millenium Force to hold the record, rather than something built purely to break the record with the least amount of effort possible.
 
Sam said:
BowMan said:
I'd feel disappointed if the tallest ride in the world was that.

Rather than the 0.0047 second flash-in-the-pan that is Kingda Ka...?

This would be the first proper coaster since Millenium Force to hold the record, rather than something built purely to break the record with the least amount of effort possible.

That doesn't stop Kingda Ka from being totally awesome though! ;)
 
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