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Oblivion: General Discussion

I don’t want a bit nemmy rebo style reboot- I don’t think they’ve got the budget- but I generally think a good spruce up would really help. As a few of said the 90s nostalgia is back in- Towers should capitalise on this!

My to do list would be
- get rid of the tree lime off the station - a good old go round with the jetwasher
- sort out any structural issues with the station if the rumours are true
- get rid of that awful Pete Cliff phones and camera announcement that plays every time they open the air gates
- sort out the inside parts of the queue line- getting some polish out and getting rid of the spider webs would be a start! Some orange stripes or something could give it a refresh!
- put in proper queueline dividers so people don’t queue jump from fastrack into normal.
Queue line video 3 - put this iconic video back in the queueline
- get rid of that edit on the final station video that happened after the crash.
- make sure all the TVs are working/ on the right hdmi!
 
I think the future of X-Sector should go more down the “Mad Scientists” route. With every ride being some different science experiment from different eras of history.

The Smiler would basically remain the same (refresh ofc) but with other Ministry of Joy theming added around the area with ‘50s style theming. Retheme Just Chicken to an American Dinner complete with a warped chequered floor and MoJ theming features. Keep the 90’s style of Oblivion but have it themed more towards existentialism, with some sort of whacky armchair philosophy professor behind it all.

Have some Ancient Greece-style statues dotted around the area of the various figures that designed the experiments, in a way that harkens towards the grey/brutalist theme the area has going for it. Obviously goes without saying, but new flat rides to replace Enterprise and Submission. I thought Mixtape would have suited the aesthetic of X-Sector had it had a different soundtrack and a reskin, also perfect part of the park if they ever brought a Nebulaz.

Sinister and authoritarian VIBES should definitely remain, but save the “disaster zone” concept for Forbidden Valley now. X-Sector can afford to pop a bit more with colour without looking atrociously garish like Walliams does.
 
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Bert2theSpark said:
Obviously goes without saying, but new flat rides to replace Enterprise and Submission. I thought Mixtape would have suited the aesthetic of X-Sector had it had a different soundtrack and a reskin, also perfect part of the park if they ever brought a Nebulaz.
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I can’t understand the love people have for the Nebulaz and wanting to see every park get one. Sure, they are nice rides to look at in action but they aren’t the kind of ride suited to parks that need good capacity and throughput on their flats. I think they work best at parks that are already quite well served by flats (such as Liseberg who already had Loke, Upswingett, Mechanica, Aerospin, and a Disk’O so could add their Nebulaz to compliment their existing flat line up rather than it being a key ride trying to fill a gaping hole).

What Towers needs is a bit of throughput monster, I’m not sure what ride that would be given their tree line restriction but a Nebulaz sure isn’t it with its ponderous loading procedure.
 
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Shaggy_Dog_ said:
I can’t understand the love people have for the Nebulaz and wanting to see every park get one. Sure, they are nice rides to look at in action but they aren’t the kind of ride suited to parks that need good capacity and throughput on their flats. I think they work best at parks that are already quite well served by flats (such as Liseberg who already had Loke, Upswingett, Mechanica, Aerospin, and a Disk’O so could add their Nebulaz to compliment their existing flat line up rather than it being a key ride trying to fill a gaping hole).

What Towers needs is a bit of throughput monster, I’m not sure what ride that would be given their tree line restriction but a Nebulaz sure isn’t it with its ponderous loading procedure.
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Indoor large throughput breakdance


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Was just looking at the specs on the Huss website, they claim their Breakdance 4 has a theoretical throughput of 720pph whereas Zamperla give 360pph for the Nebulaz. However Zamperla base it on a load/unload time of 160 secs but when I rode Loki at DM it seemed way longer than that.
 
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DiskO would fit well.
I would utilise one without the hump and, assuming nothings changed since I worked at WMSP when theirs was installed - turn the spinning intensity to a higher setting.
Getting a 1.2m flat would be a good development .

Chances are we’re getting nothing though
 
flyingguitar said:
I am curious whether this would require planning permission, if so when would it be expected to be submitted (didn't the Rcade building get submitted during the off season?)
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I'd guess over winter so their probably getting ready to apply anywhere and would submit it in November when they close. That way they would have the most optimal time to do whatever they are planning. However, it all comes down to what modifications and changes they're gonna make.

Sorry for the late reply not logged onto here in ages aha

VerticalLoop123 said:
I don’t want a bit nemmy rebo style reboot- I don’t think they’ve got the budget- but I generally think a good spruce up would really help. As a few of said the 90s nostalgia is back in- Towers should capitalise on this!

My to do list would be
- get rid of the tree lime off the station - a good old go round with the jetwasher
- sort out any structural issues with the station if the rumours are true
- get rid of that awful Pete Cliff phones and camera announcement that plays every time they open the air gates
- sort out the inside parts of the queue line- getting some polish out and getting rid of the spider webs would be a start! Some orange stripes or something could give it a refresh!
- put in proper queueline dividers so people don’t queue jump from fastrack into normal.
Queue line video 3 - put this iconic video back in the queueline
- get rid of that edit on the final station video that happened after the crash.
- make sure all the TVs are working/ on the right hdmi!
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They need that queue video to be remastered for LCD screens, it looks absolutely awful as it was orignally designed for the older CRT style ones.

Joel3 said:
I dunno, I personally really love the 90s theme of the ride with the soundtrack and videos. That’s one thing I don’t think should change in a refurbishment, even other members of my group when visiting say how much they love the 90s feel to the music and they wouldn’t want that to change.
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That's the first thing which clicked to me when I walked into the queue for the first time forever absolutely love the aethstetic! Really gets you anticipated for the ride.
 
In the queue for oblivion, from the bottom the floor dosnt look to bad, but in the station it dose look quite bad.

Also the chain tensioner is getting very close to activating its max limit switch (looks like only a couple of cm away from activating the switch) when a train ascends the lift hill (the chain has probably streched from my knowledge this is quite normal) but I wonder if this could cause down time over scarefest.

Edit: when a train is going up it is also making a loud squeeking noise, loud enough to be heard from the smiler. And before anyone thinks it, none of this is dangerous the limit switch is there for this reason and it may not strech quick enough to cause a problem
 
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Numaticjoe said:
I'd guess over winter so their probably getting ready to apply anywhere and would submit it in November when they close. That way they would have the most optimal time to do whatever they are planning. However, it all comes down to what modifications and changes they're gonna make.
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With Towers, don't they have the GDO where they can install rides of up to a certain height.

That was how Spinball Whizzer, the Retrosquad and some of the smaller rides got through without planning.

I do think they would put in planning as courtesy anyway in some cases.
 
EarthlyKnight27 said:
With the season over, I wonder if we'll be seeing any improvements to Oblivion over the off season.
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Oblivion sort of gives Merlin a free pass!

It's the one ride which arguably needs nothing but just some general cleaning. The ride's staging is what makes it, and it's still more or less perfect to this day. No point fixity what ain't broke!

Maybe if Merlin wanted a quick "Here's something new!" they could install floorless trains & modify the station to allow for it. Wouldn't come cheap, but could draw crowds almost as much as Nemesis Reborn so possibly worth it? Other than that I'd leave it well alone.
 
GJMarshy said:
Oblivion sort of gives Merlin a free pass!

It's the one ride which arguably needs nothing but just some general cleaning. The ride's staging is what makes it, and it's still more or less perfect to this day. No point fixity what ain't broke!

Maybe if Merlin wanted a quick "Here's something new!" they could install floorless trains & modify the station to allow for it. Wouldn't come cheap, but could draw crowds almost as much as Nemesis Reborn so possibly worth it? Other than that I'd leave it well alone.
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The station building is rumoured to be due a rebuild soon, but I could see them doing something with the ride (floorless trains would be a no-brainer really, but that would require a lot of infrastructure work) to go with that. Time will tell though.
 
GJMarshy said:
Oblivion sort of gives Merlin a free pass!

It's the one ride which arguably needs nothing but just some general cleaning. The ride's staging is what makes it, and it's still more or less perfect to this day. No point fixity what ain't broke!

Maybe if Merlin wanted a quick "Here's something new!" they could install floorless trains & modify the station to allow for it. Wouldn't come cheap, but could draw crowds almost as much as Nemesis Reborn so possibly worth it? Other than that I'd leave it well alone.
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What I'm thinking is that Oblivion would need only a few changes, and most of it regarding the station and trains.

As we all know, Oblivion is too iconic to replace, but a small retrofit would be nice to see.
 
There isn’t much precedent to support them completing anything other than what is essential to keep the ride running and safe to operate.

It took them long enough to think about and sort Nemesis, likely as it was necessary. I wouldn’t get your hopes up.
 
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