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Paultons Park: General Discussion

Lewis232 said:
Interesting looking foundations going in under Cobras first drop


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I believe this seems to be why there's a lot of speculation about it being an Intamin Hot Racer at the moment.

I'm not so sure it is but it'd be an awesome addition either way. I'm slightly concerned about capacity as it'd be the park's signature coaster (much like Vampire to Chessington although more like Mandrill Mayhem in thrills).
 
if it is indeed a hot racer then paultons are onto a winner. just rode mahuka a couple days ago and not only is it a fantastic coaster (packs a hefty punch for the scale of it) but people of all ages were riding it and loving it. my family (who like coasters, but not obsessively) were all raving about it afterwards. would be an absolutely perfect addition to the park

edit: just wanted to add that despite it only having 2 trains of 9 people the queue moved impressively quick and their operations were fantastic - positive paultons could make it work just as well
 
I still very much hope it isn’t that, both for the previously mentioned personal reasons that we likely couldn’t ride it and I still don’t see how a ride like that wouldn’t be a complete throughput disaster in the UK.

Remember, even at Paultons every cycle is likely to have RAP customers which with this type of ride will likely slow things considerably.
 
Bowser said:
Remember, even at Paultons every cycle is likely to have RAP customers which with this type of ride will likely slow things considerably.
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before riding mahuka I'd be inclined to agree but that also had its fair share of access guests in the queue - not sure how their accessibility passes differ from ours in the UK but the most that'd happen is it'd stack for a minute or so on the brakerun. I definitely understand why there's concerns around it from a capacity perspective but if it is a hot racer I'm positive paultons have considered how they'd mitigate that
 
Jb85 said:
My only concern with a hot racer is future proofing the investment.

It’ll be fine for now capacity wise but on current trajectory will it suit them in say 5-10 years time ?
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This is what I'm thinking, I'm inclined to think it would be a regular LSM coaster over a Hot Racer. Especially as this could be "The Coaster" that puts Paultons on the map

Bowser said:
I still very much hope it isn’t that, both for the previously mentioned personal reasons that we likely couldn’t ride it and I still don’t see how a ride like that wouldn’t be a complete throughput disaster in the UK.

Remember, even at Paultons every cycle is likely to have RAP customers which with this type of ride will likely slow things considerably.
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This is a factor in why I'm thinking it might be a more conventional launch coaster rather than a single rail.

Either way, if they did go with a Hot Racer - they could be onto a winner.

I do wonder how it could be themed to Vikings though.
 
owenstreet7 said:
This is what I'm thinking, I'm inclined to think it would be a regular LSM coaster over a Hot Racer. Especially as this could be "The Coaster" that puts Paultons on the map


This is a factor in why I'm thinking it might be a more conventional launch coaster rather than a single rail.

Either way, if they did go with a Hot Racer - they could be onto a winner.

I do wonder how it could be themed to Vikings though.
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There are ways ….. Rita is themed to a forest….
Oh wait……
 
I don’t think a hot racer is much of an attraction either if that’s what they’re going for. If Plopsa had built one instead of Ride to Happiness nobody would know about them still.

Hyperia is an attraction.

Minecraft will be an attraction.

If it’s not something of note then they’re still Peppa Pig World.
 
Bowser said:
If it’s not something of note then they’re still Peppa Pig World.
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I suspect some people need to calm their expectations on this. Will it be a nationwide attraction? Doubt it! Will it be really good for Paultons and a step up in thrill... absolutely!

Is Peppa Pig World still the main draw? Yes... ofcourse it is!
 
Themepark-newbie said:
I suspect some people need to calm their expectations on this. Will it be a nationwide attraction? Doubt it! Will it be really good for Paultons and a step up in thrill... absolutely!

Is Peppa Pig World still the main draw? Yes... ofcourse it is!
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Bowser said:
If it’s not something of note then they’re still Peppa Pig World.
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To be honest, I think @Bowser is right and that Paultons Park has a reputation where it's synonymous with Peppa Pig World to the general public.

I also agree that it needs something thrilling to break out of that reputation

It's clear Paultons want to diversify their audience however there will come a point where Peppa Pig might hinder that especially for older families.

Drayton Manor has been in danger of that with Thomas although it had a reputation for thrill rides before that so that may have helped avoid that.

I believe the solution to the reputation problem is either a signature rollercoaster that will take front and centre of marketing like Ride to Happiness with Plopsa or an IP that has appeal for a wider or older audience.

I'm hoping that the 2026 rollercoaster will be the signature rollercoaster they're needing to draw people to the park who may dismiss Paultons at the moment.

It doesn't mean Peppa will be sidelined, I think Peppa serves well attracting generations of younger children.

It's more about keeping the existing audience and attracting older audiences who may dismiss Paultons with it's current reputation. Something that could complement Peppa Pig World for the ones who grown out of the IP and the older siblings.
 
Themepark-newbie said:
Whilst I agree, it reads as I'd the suggestion is that paultons either need a Mack extreme spinner, the UKs tallest coaster or the hottest IP ever, otherwise it will be a failure.

They won't build any of that.
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I didn't mean that they'd need a specific coaster type for it to be successful or to break out of the Peppa mould.

It doesn't need to be the hottest IP although an IP that is either an all ages one or something specifically for older ones could complement Peppa and tweak the park's reputation towards all ages.

It's more like they need something that is thrilling that can be marketed as a signature rollercoaster for the park. Drayton Manor have Shockwave/The Wave for that.

It's been very clear that with Paultons, we shouldn't be ruling things out purely on the basis of it's reputation as it is one that is very much diversifying it's brand.

Plopsaland is very similar to Paultons Park with it's aims however diversified a while ago when Anubis and then eventually Ride to Happiness. I can see the 2026 coaster being in the vein of Anubis however I can see something in the vein of RTH eventually, not necessarily the same ride type but in terms of it's intensity.

I'm going to be honest, I was shocked Plopsaland went for an Extreme Spinner at the time and I'd honestly would imagine Paultons delivering that shock at some point.
 
Hid said:
The ride is their Signature Coaster though despite its capacity its there most thrilling ride
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Yeah, that is right even with the abysmal capacity of the new trains. It was even more so when we had the Stand Up trains.

The Wave is a poorly executed conversion of a stand up rollercoaster where B&M have successfully converted stand ups in the US to Floorless models - those are B&M models which may make it easier for those ones.

I think the park should've considered B&M or Intamin for the conversion to sit down and got 2/3 trains for the coaster. One of which could be used as back up.

This could be a cautionary tale of how not to approach things for the Park's signature coaster and consider things like capacity when it comes to it.
 
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