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Ride Access Pass Systems and Disabled Access (pre 2024)

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I'm guessing the edit @Danny made to his post relates to working at Legoland perhaps? That's the only place with a significantly different RAP system than the other three.
 
DiogoJ42 said:
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No thanks diogo. However a tub of popcorn would not go amiss until the admins call time.

I do have a daughter that is SEN and uses RAP. Its not the best system in the world, and i would join in with a constructive conversation.

The problem with using the term snowflake is people use the label to be negative about people they dont agree with.

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speedy said:
Okay no problem. You've clarified that my original interpretation of your post was correct, and indeed it is offensive to suggest people up in arms (quite rightly) over equal rights are sowflakes. I think that's fair for me to say, considering I'm partially sighted myself and this sort of thing does affect me.

Have a good day :)
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Sowflakes...
Bacon crisps?
 
Oh no, have we got snowflakes already. Thats going to be me walking everywhere because my car is like Bambi on ice when it gets bad.
 
I think that, whatever side of the fence you're on here, everyone has to be in agreement that the RAP system at Alton Towers has some severe flaws. Not anywhere else have I seen a park having to actively EXTEND their RAP-equivalent queueline because it is so insanely long that it can't even be contained within the originally allocated space (as with Wicker Man). I also wonder how sensible it is for the rules to be allowing 3 people to be accompanying the person given the RAP in the first place - seems that the lax verification policy of qualification for the pass is basically allowing just about anyone to waltz in with a doctored letter and effectively secure free unlimited fastpass for their entire party.
 
Alastair said:
I think that, whatever side of the fence you're on here, everyone has to be in agreement that the RAP system at Alton Towers has some severe flaws. Not anywhere else have I seen a park having to actively EXTEND their RAP-equivalent queueline because it is so insanely long that it can't even be contained within the originally allocated space (as with Wicker Man). I also wonder how sensible it is for the rules to be allowing 3 people to be accompanying the person given the RAP in the first place - seems that the lax verification policy of qualification for the pass is basically allowing just about anyone to waltz in with a doctored letter and effectively secure free unlimited fastpass for their entire party.
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Unfortunately it's often worse, you can walk in say cannot have rap and get issued it without proof...

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Making the queues wider to accept wheelchairs doesn't solve the issue. Some disabilities mean people are not able to stand for long periods in enclosed spaces surrounded by other people. It's not always to do with the physical queue infrastructure.

Alastair said:
... seems that the lax verification policy of qualification for the pass is basically allowing just about anyone to waltz in with a doctored letter and effectively secure free unlimited fastpass for their entire party.
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It would be good if there was a way of checking with the doctors to ensure it's a genuine letter. I doubt such a system exists though sadly.

DiogoJ42 said:
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Unfortunately the wider a queue line is, the slower it moves. One of the reasons BPB's queues move so fast is because they are only wide enough for a single file of boddies!
Not to mention it makes queue jumping easier.
 
Alsty said:
Making the queues wider to accept wheelchairs doesn't solve the issue. Some disabilities mean people are not able to stand for long periods in enclosed spaces surrounded by other people. It's not always to do with the physical queue infrastructure.


It would be good if there was a way of checking with the doctors to ensure it's a genuine letter. I doubt such a system exists though sadly.



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One way that's frequently suggested is to have a stock letter that is given to a named gp who then stamps it

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ihaveaspergers said:
Unfortunately it's often worse, you can walk in say cannot have rap and get issued it without proof...

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I have never seen that. This year all they have done is complain that my daughter specialist have not worded the letter correctly and make me feel like crap and my daughter confused causing 30 to 45 mins of issues after the box office visit due to the doctor not using the exact line word or word off AT website.

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delta79 said:
I have never seen that. This year all they have done is complain that my daughter specialist have not worded the letter correctly and make me feel like crap and my daughter confused causing 30 to 45 mins of issues after the box office visit due to the doctor not using the exact line word or word off AT website.

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It's admittedly extremely rare for it to be issued that lax but it has hsppened, heck a forum member here apparently tested it

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Alastair said:
I think that, whatever side of the fence you're on here, everyone has to be in agreement that the RAP system at Alton Towers has some severe flaws. Not anywhere else have I seen a park having to actively EXTEND their RAP-equivalent queueline because it is so insanely long that it can't even be contained within the originally allocated space (as with Wicker Man). I also wonder how sensible it is for the rules to be allowing 3 people to be accompanying the person given the RAP in the first place - seems that the lax verification policy of qualification for the pass is basically allowing just about anyone to waltz in with a doctored letter and effectively secure free unlimited fastpass for their entire party.
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Thorpe have reverted a lot of their RAP queues to the fast track queue because the makeshift RAP one was so over-run, so it's not a problem exclusive to Alton.
 
IanSR said:
Thorpe have reverted a lot of their RAP queues to the fast track queue because the makeshift RAP one was so over-run, so it's not a problem exclusive to Alton.
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Which brings a nice big bundle of problems itself.
Does seem silly putting unable to queue and paying not to queue in the same line.

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Smilertron said:
Do you think a system like Volcano Bay would work at any of the UK parks. A virtual queue?
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Volcano bay system is powered by accesso, just like the accesso qsmart powered system Legoland use

So yes it could, however opinion is devided as to whenever it is a pleasant experience

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ihaveaspergers said:
Volcano bay system is powered by accesso, just like the accesso qsmart powered system Legoland use

So yes it could, however opinion is devided as to whenever it is a pleasant experience

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Ahhhhhhh didn't realise that legoland used that system.
 
Smilertron said:
Ahhhhhhh didn't realise that legoland used that system.
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Legoland call their qsmart system qbot which gets confusing as accesso have a similar service called qbot.
(Accesso qbot being tamagotchi like qsmart devices)

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