KingNemesis
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thefatone said:Monorail advertises Scarefest open til 9pm.
Well it is... (For 11 days)
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Scarefest 2013: Discussion
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Well it is... (For 11 days)
ThemeParkJack
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Back in 2011 the lighting around Nemesis was perfect. In 2012 the lighting was very poor. They had one red light on the lift hill and a variety of normal coloured lights around the ride.
Katanga Canyon was also really well lighted with green lights around the lake. Yet again in 2012 they reduced the amount of lighting and just had the one in the car.
It would be very good too see the park being well lit with various colours. It would be perfect if they do it like they did in 2011.
Katanga Canyon was also really well lighted with green lights around the lake. Yet again in 2012 they reduced the amount of lighting and just had the one in the car.
It would be very good too see the park being well lit with various colours. It would be perfect if they do it like they did in 2011.
Mostly all the permanent lights on Nemesis (bar the entrance tower) were filtered red in 2012, just seemed most of it was overpowered by the generators. The dispatch and bay lights in the station were changed to red bulbs and half of the main lamps were turned off, making it quite dark.
DiogoJ42
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Without wanting to sound like I'm defending them (Wardley knows I'd rather die), Gels are cheap, but they burn through very quickly. They are best for temporary indoor use. To perminantly colour outdoor lights would need dichroic filters, which are rather more expensive. Though in the long term they are cheaper than constantly replacing gels. But since when do Merlin think in the long term? :
hambletwins
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my main comparison I look at each year is the river rapids. In 2010 they were the greatest looking part of the park in my eyes! Every section was done perfectly with different colors and lights everywhere and blue shining through the falls. It was perfect! But now. They don't bother at all. Fair enough if they thought "aw we over did that ride we need to spread this around and make everything else slightly better" but that clearly didn't happen!
Tom
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The reality is that Scarefest is the illuminations of Alton Towers. Blackpool uses them to extend the peak season and keep people drawn in. Alton Towers utilises Scarefest (and Fireworks) in the same way, but they still come at great cost.
The fact is they have just merely trimmed budgets constantly. People seem to be talking like lighting is free and the park have got things wrong by removing something that has no cost associated with it. In fact the removal of lighting brings significant (to them) savings.
The fact is they have just merely trimmed budgets constantly. People seem to be talking like lighting is free and the park have got things wrong by removing something that has no cost associated with it. In fact the removal of lighting brings significant (to them) savings.
Dave
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Towers issues with lighting are:
1) it's not cheap, as Diogo said outside lighting is expensive, on top of that they are not allowed to put anything on the hired lighting so it's not just gels they have to buy its the light rigs as well.
2) to get rid of the generator lighting would require huge investment in a UPS system, the current gennies are not at risk from a power cut
3) they are only allowed to "permanently" light a certain percentage of the park, this is to do with their planning restrictions (you can find the exact number if your willing to trawl through the whole history of planning docs). So everything they get has to be storable too.
4) quite a lot of the hired stuff in 2010 was damaged or stolen, increasing the subsequent hire-rate.
Non of that is a reason not to do it as the event makes them money, just think some get the impression decisions are really black and white at the park and they rarely are... I still disagree with them not lighting the park but its not simple.
1) it's not cheap, as Diogo said outside lighting is expensive, on top of that they are not allowed to put anything on the hired lighting so it's not just gels they have to buy its the light rigs as well.
2) to get rid of the generator lighting would require huge investment in a UPS system, the current gennies are not at risk from a power cut
3) they are only allowed to "permanently" light a certain percentage of the park, this is to do with their planning restrictions (you can find the exact number if your willing to trawl through the whole history of planning docs). So everything they get has to be storable too.
4) quite a lot of the hired stuff in 2010 was damaged or stolen, increasing the subsequent hire-rate.
Non of that is a reason not to do it as the event makes them money, just think some get the impression decisions are really black and white at the park and they rarely are... I still disagree with them not lighting the park but its not simple.
djtruefitt
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If lights get damaged or stolen, once again towers need to take a bit more time and effort to put them in places where they won't! Same goes for when they add new themeing!
For example putting loads of fancy expensive lights on the ground down the haunted hallow (where there are no staff), is just asking for them to be stolen or broke! The same goes for the ones around Oblivions hole.
For example putting loads of fancy expensive lights on the ground down the haunted hallow (where there are no staff), is just asking for them to be stolen or broke! The same goes for the ones around Oblivions hole.
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Andrew said:
Pretty sure it was a joke....
BigAl
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Just posted this in Talbot Street, but I thought I'd post it here so we people can compare the current Halloween events with the scale of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWte7a88--Q#ws
The thing that annoys me the most is that the only thing holding back the park's Ents team today is the budget. If they had the money, I'm positive they could do something similar (minus the ice show, for obvious reasons).
But as you can see, it was very different to Scarefest and and was all about the atmosphere, lighting and special theming, as opposed to just scare mazes and riding rides in the dark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWte7a88--Q#ws
The thing that annoys me the most is that the only thing holding back the park's Ents team today is the budget. If they had the money, I'm positive they could do something similar (minus the ice show, for obvious reasons).
But as you can see, it was very different to Scarefest and and was all about the atmosphere, lighting and special theming, as opposed to just scare mazes and riding rides in the dark.