No b.s. on population expansion, as a proportion of overall population, attendance has gone down. We have argued conservation versus commerce in circles before Mako, we both know we are right. You are correct of course that I have no specific knowledge or interest in the area, as you clearly do, I just don't enjoy seeing animals contained, especially when they ofter appear to be large animals in rather small containers, for life. I can remember the animals in the Tower zoo many years ago...absolutely horrendous. The place for such creatures is the sea. Going through the sea life in Blackpool on my season pass a couple of years ago is what stirred my emotions, felt fine going in, felt...literally and emotionally...a bit grubby on the way out. Each to their own, does nothing to me, but the debate is always fun. ...and we never will get that argument in the mouse queue now will we?