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Shanghai Disneyland

Are these runoured cuts are anywhere near as bad as people trying to make out. Disney world is having the most about of investment than has had for a long time. This year all parks have seen investment, more so than past few years.

Epcot- Frozen ride and area makeover, plus third theatre added to soarin and new film- soarin around the world.

Magic Mingdom- new castle show starting this summer, plus new jungle cruise themed restaurant opened early this year.

Animal kingdom- rivers of light (expected around August now), plus all the other new night time entertainment and safari.

Hollywood studios- new Star Wars fireworks and special effects show, plus other Star Wars based entertainment added.

Disney springs- town centre area opened and almost all new stuff will be opened by fall.

While rumours where the entertainment division have had the biggest cuts from reports I have read people having seen any effect in the parks so far and been kids of new entertainment additions added using more performers than shows taken away. Also love it or hate it massive amount of money is being invested in avatar for 2017, toy story land expected to be 2018 and then Star Wars in 2019/20. Plus other new attractions are in the works for Epcot and magic kingdom. If only interested in milking the parks for money would they have invested in the third track for toy story or third theatre on soarin.

I went to the California parks end of last year and both parks were great I didn't see any notable cuts from previous visit a few years before in fact that parks looked better and new entertainment for the 60th was outstanding.

I might be completely wrong but will be interesting to see how things pan out over the next few years.
 
$500 million has been cut from Disney California and Florida operations budgets for the Q3 period (July, August, September). I don't know what the overall budgets are but that is a heck of a lot. They are also not hiring in California at present, something that is very unusual leading into the summer season. Apparently if you go to Disneyland California on a weekday (which is usually quieter) it feels just as busy as a weekend because of the cuts that are in place.

I read earlier that only about half of the Disneyland 60th anniversary celebrations that were initially planned went ahead due to budget reasons.

Disney clearly do spend a lot more than anyone else, they invest a heck of a lot. They are also specialists in going way over budget (Avatar, Shanghai, MyMagic+). Bob Chapek is addressing this in a somewhat brutal manner.

Of course Disney still offers an outstanding experience. Walt's take on it all would be fascinating.

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Although Disney make cutbacks like all of the other Parks around the world, its nice and also important to notice that, while still a considerable amount of cuts and changes take place, it's very rare that the average park goer will notice anything different unlike Merlin Parks where you walk in and go 'Oh, there's no rides or toilet paper today'.

Even though it sounds like they slashed the budget for Disneyland's Diamond Celebration, they still pulled off a stunning and ultimately faultless event including Disneyland Forever and World of Colour Celebrate to name just a few attractions.
 
DiogoJ42 said:
I have to know how that skeleton turning in to Jack was done!
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I believe Mi-Nigle is correct in his post:

Mi-Nigle said:
Is it done similar to the Duel doll's house? i.e. with a sheet of angled glass in front of Jack and an illuminated skeleton elsewhere.

I can't see any evidence of glass though once the effect is over.
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The edges of the angled glass is cleverly hidden between a mast on the right, and the central rope of the rigging on the left. The instant the boat passes the rigging, you can see the light shimmering against this angled piece of glass. Since it is at about 45-degrees, the Skeleton is on the deck of the boat hidden from view. What makes it particularly convincing, is that the Skeleton also has a ship-wheel placed in front of it, so that the 'right' parts of Jack are replaced with the Skeleton, from whichever angle you are viewing, and the skeleton doesn't just appear across the visible wheel too.
 
I love Disney but I'm getting pretty fed up with their louzy shove in an IP approch of late. Next up for Shangai...
Screamscape said:
Last week I pondered the question about just what would we see added to Shanghai Disneyland first. According to Screamscape sources we were right on the button with our first guess... that the previously announced but then forgotten Toy Story Land will be the first new attractions added to the park after it opens.

From the sound of things it wont be a big land, but will instead consist of only two attractions (Rex's Racer and Slink Dog Spin) along with a Woody's Roundup carnival / midway style area, and a couple of food options. Rex's Racer should be the same bright-orange half-pipe looking ride that we've seen at other parks under the "RC Racer" name and Slinky Dog Spin will also be the exact same circular flat ride that was used at Hong Kong Disneyland and in Paris.

I'm not sure why the old "RC Racer" is being replaced with a "Rex" theme in Shanghai, but I'm told that the pieces for the ride are already already on-site in the backstage area somewhere, so once the park opens we should see construction begin on this right away.
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I get that this has been popular in Hong Kong but in my opinion these lands have no place in a Disney castle park. It frustrates me so much. Disney are better than this, they are being plain lazy in many regards at the moment.

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Not at all, well not originally intended to be. But now it seems that they are yes.

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There's only a handful of attractions I can think of that aren't IP and even some of those are now IP - Rock 'N' Rollercoaster is now Aerosmith and Space Mountain is Star Wars. There's Big Thunder Mountain and Expedition Everest I guess but even the Tower Of Terror is an IP. :confused:
 
I'm sure we've just had this debate in another topic?

Disney is an odd situation. While they clearly want to build on their IP's the Theme Parks are as much a part of the Disney brand as any film, and therefore deserves their own original IP's. I'd go as far as to say that in Walt Disney's final years he was more interested to create unique projects for his park than anything else.

On the other hand Shanghai Disneyland seems to be aiming at something quite different to the other parks and if taken as an experiment I'm glad it exists. Toy Story however is disappointing because it's just a hash of what they've done elsewhere.


In other news I've heard rumours they plan to clone Expedition Everest as the next major ride. There's a vacant patch towards the back of the park which exactly matches Everests footprint.
 
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Spike said:
There's only a handful of attractions I can think of that aren't IP and even some of those are now IP - Rock 'N' Rollercoaster is now Aerosmith and Space Mountain is Star Wars. There's Big Thunder Mountain and Expedition Everest I guess but even the Tower Of Terror is an IP. :confused:
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Tokyo Disney Sea's Tower of Terror has an original story (due in part to licensing issues), and is basically its own thing.

Also, Hyperspace Mountain is only a seasonal make-over, and not permanent.
 
Spike said:
There's only a handful of attractions I can think of that aren't IP and even some of those are now IP - Rock 'N' Rollercoaster is now Aerosmith and Space Mountain is Star Wars. There's Big Thunder Mountain and Expedition Everest I guess but even the Tower Of Terror is an IP. :confused:
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There are lots of Disney attractions that aren't IP's or were there before the films. Haunted Mansion, Big Thunder Mountain, 'it's a small world, Pirates of the Caribbean, Space Mountain, Jungle Cruise, Kali Rapids, Kilimanjaro Safaris, Spaceship Earth, Soarin' etc.
 
The Toy Story Lands in Paris and Hong Kong both feel incredibly cheap and underwhelming for a Disney park.
 
Following on from the pre-opening period, Disney have had to issue an etiquette guide for visitors. Said guide encourages guests to queue in an orderly fashion and respect the parks plants and trees; it also warns against some anti-social behaviours such as defacing public facilities and lying down on the ground.

In other news Roaring Rapids opened in test mode last week but Disney are having serious issues with the big animatronic. Where have we heard that one before?

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Yup,
got "inspected" by staff at Mingoland for doing just that a few years ago.
Under a tree on a hot day.
Not even under the influence of anything,
just hot, tired (and old!).
 
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