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The London 2012 Olympics - The Politics Discussion
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I feel proud that London is having the Olympics, but the Marketing has been awful! The logo and mascots look crap, Colours used on promotional items are awful, and the Opening Ceremony looks embrassing!. Whoever was in charge of the marketing should be shot. However, I'm looking forward to the actual events, if we preform like we did in Beijing, Then it should be a good one.
I feel proud that London is having the Olympics, but the Marketing has been awful! The logo and mascots look crap, Colours used on promotional items are awful, and the Opening Ceremony looks embrassing!. Whoever was in charge of the marketing should be shot. However, I'm looking forward to the actual events, if we preform like we did in Beijing, Then it should be a good one.
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I'm massively excited for the Olympics and think we're going to do an outstanding job of it.
The British press has been trying to stomp on the Olympics since the day we knew we'd be hosting. They've slated everything. Unfortunately for them...everything's done on time, under the post-bid-win estimate budget and really quite well. Sure the logo split opinion, but it's certainly a logo you'll never forget. It's versatile and futuristic and in that sense, it succeeds regardless of wether or not you like it.
The attitude the British public so love to take is "we're going to be an embarrassment" as it fits in with the "we're the worst country in the world. We have no talent. Pity us" attitude which people seem to love to revel in these days. The truth is that people at the top of their field across many fields and who represent us on the world stage are involved in putting this together. Having been following the dribs and drabs of information regarding the Opening Ceremony very closely, I can promise you right now that it isn't going to disappoint, from what I gather, it's going to be every bit as spectacular as what you saw in Beijing, and it will certainly have a bit more heart.
Also, we've succeeded in planning a games that will actually change our city once the games are done. We have uses for our buildings and stadiums (the olympic stadium will find one, eventually ??? ) and where we don't- they're temporary. We have a stunning new park already with thousands of new homes and contracts for thousands more being handed out. We have an Olympic Park which will become a living, functioning part of the city when the games are done, as well as infrastructural upgrades that will make a lasting difference. All this in place of a forgotten, contaminated and run-down section of the city. The gloriously "successful' Beijing games involved demolishing hundreds of people's homes to build an Olympic park that has absolutely no purpose now. Literally acres of concrete almost uninhibited. The Birds Nest Stadium is used just 4 or 5 times a year, and for a winter funfair. That's it. At the Athens Olympic Park, there's padlocks on the gates. Some of the venues, which cost millions, have started falling apart.
The only criticism I have for the Olympics is unrelated to our involvement as hosts. The sponsorship nonsense really does undermine everything the Olympics is supposed to stand for. I guess that's just the nature of financing a multi-billion pound event in a capitalist world, but it's pretty sickening- the level of control and power these laughably unsuitable sponsors are given.
All in all, I've got pretty sick of hearing "it's going to be an embarrassment" tossed around for the last 7 years, and I've been even more frustrated at the press for enforcing that view. If we actually had faith in ourselves, a bit of pride and determination as a nation, we might actually get somewhere. Instead we revel in rubbing everything in the dirt. Thankfully, despite that, those in control have managed to fight through and it's clear the final outcome is one of quality. With the torch travelling around the country, I think the public are finally getting on board. Come July 27th, I think a fair few people may be eating their words.
I'm massively excited for the Olympics and think we're going to do an outstanding job of it.
The British press has been trying to stomp on the Olympics since the day we knew we'd be hosting. They've slated everything. Unfortunately for them...everything's done on time, under the post-bid-win estimate budget and really quite well. Sure the logo split opinion, but it's certainly a logo you'll never forget. It's versatile and futuristic and in that sense, it succeeds regardless of wether or not you like it.
The attitude the British public so love to take is "we're going to be an embarrassment" as it fits in with the "we're the worst country in the world. We have no talent. Pity us" attitude which people seem to love to revel in these days. The truth is that people at the top of their field across many fields and who represent us on the world stage are involved in putting this together. Having been following the dribs and drabs of information regarding the Opening Ceremony very closely, I can promise you right now that it isn't going to disappoint, from what I gather, it's going to be every bit as spectacular as what you saw in Beijing, and it will certainly have a bit more heart.
Also, we've succeeded in planning a games that will actually change our city once the games are done. We have uses for our buildings and stadiums (the olympic stadium will find one, eventually ??? ) and where we don't- they're temporary. We have a stunning new park already with thousands of new homes and contracts for thousands more being handed out. We have an Olympic Park which will become a living, functioning part of the city when the games are done, as well as infrastructural upgrades that will make a lasting difference. All this in place of a forgotten, contaminated and run-down section of the city. The gloriously "successful' Beijing games involved demolishing hundreds of people's homes to build an Olympic park that has absolutely no purpose now. Literally acres of concrete almost uninhibited. The Birds Nest Stadium is used just 4 or 5 times a year, and for a winter funfair. That's it. At the Athens Olympic Park, there's padlocks on the gates. Some of the venues, which cost millions, have started falling apart.
The only criticism I have for the Olympics is unrelated to our involvement as hosts. The sponsorship nonsense really does undermine everything the Olympics is supposed to stand for. I guess that's just the nature of financing a multi-billion pound event in a capitalist world, but it's pretty sickening- the level of control and power these laughably unsuitable sponsors are given.
All in all, I've got pretty sick of hearing "it's going to be an embarrassment" tossed around for the last 7 years, and I've been even more frustrated at the press for enforcing that view. If we actually had faith in ourselves, a bit of pride and determination as a nation, we might actually get somewhere. Instead we revel in rubbing everything in the dirt. Thankfully, despite that, those in control have managed to fight through and it's clear the final outcome is one of quality. With the torch travelling around the country, I think the public are finally getting on board. Come July 27th, I think a fair few people may be eating their words.
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I think I best expressed my views in the original TT thread... (or rather I'm lazy and I'm just going to copy and paste it across)
I think I best expressed my views in the original TT thread... (or rather I'm lazy and I'm just going to copy and paste it across
)Meat Pie on TowersTimes said:
Meat Pie on TowersTimes said:James agrees with me? I'm obviously not being revolutionary enough. *Turns political ideology up to eleven*
But in all seriousness, as a Socialist I'm not against the Government investing public money as that makes jobs and growth, but the spending on these spectacles of the Olympics, Jubilee and New Year's celebrations are all things which do not make any great financial return for the country and do not directly improve the lives of the general public (beyond the provision of entertainment).
When the economic cards are down, I would say every penny needs to be invested in a way which benefits the most vulnerable or increases growth and unfortunately the Olympics does not fall under either of those categories.
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Although David Beckham isn't a good footballer by fitness standards, he still has the quality still in him. His work for the Olympics and being a torchbearer is now near-null since he isn't representing team GB. Micah Richards will probably be rusty from lack of recent football anyway.
Anyone else as disgusted as this as me?
Although David Beckham isn't a good footballer by fitness standards, he still has the quality still in him. His work for the Olympics and being a torchbearer is now near-null since he isn't representing team GB. Micah Richards will probably be rusty from lack of recent football anyway.
Anyone else as disgusted as this as me?
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No, he's old and past it. Well, he was old and past it three years ago. And I'm not even a proper faffball fan!
I look forward to the Olympics because I enjoy watching people put years of training to use, events such as diving, javelin, hammer throw and the steeplechase are just enjoyable to watch for me.
No, he's old and past it. Well, he was old and past it three years ago. And I'm not even a proper faffball fan!
I look forward to the Olympics because I enjoy watching people put years of training to use, events such as diving, javelin, hammer throw and the steeplechase are just enjoyable to watch for me.
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No, infact I'm glad he was rightfully dropped from the squad. He's had his time and isn't even a good player anymore by English standards, anyone would look good playing in a country where people think the sports called "Soccer".
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No, infact I'm glad he was rightfully dropped from the squad. He's had his time and isn't even a good player anymore by English standards, anyone would look good playing in a country where people think the sports called "Soccer".
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The BBC titles have been released.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/18165601
The BBC titles have been released.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/18165601
