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The World of David Walliams: General Discussion

They would have to look at securing the centre of the park again if it was direct line. If a path tight to the side of the towers then it could be done.

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delta79 said:
They would have to look at securing the centre of the park again if it was direct line. If a path tight to the side of the towers then it could be done.

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What do they gain though? It’s a dead path with no hope of development (they wouldn’t event get permission to put some small concession stands around there). People in theme parks don’t take the shortest route around a park, they plot their route based on rides. Sure some may have the idea that they could get from Rita to Oblivion faster but it’s a dead space between the two.

If it was viable Broome would have done it in the 80’s.
 
Very much agree with @Dave - a fruitless endeavour. Paths aren't 12 quid a square in the real world... :)

If people have a reason to go back there, they will. If you put something compelling back there, folk will walk over hot coals to get there... the park has been full of dead ends since its inception, really.
 
TheBolt said:
A major park has to offer something new and exciting every year,be it a new parade, show, rollercoaster or whatever...
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I don't think it does... If I visit the park in 2018 and have a great day with my friends and family, why does it need to be different the following year when we return?

We've been tenpin bowling three Friday nights on the bounce... everything is exactly the same - why is a park different?

The notion that they have to add a new attraction is something that the parks have done to themselves and they have to do it because it's expected, rather than because it's needed. In the 80s and 90s when they were very much in the ascendancy it made sense, now I really don't get wht it does.
 
Rick said:
I don't think it does... If I visit the park in 2018 and have a great day with my friends and family, why does it need to be different the following year when we return?

We've been tenpin bowling three Friday nights on the bounce... everything is exactly the same - why is a park different?

The notion that they have to add a new attraction is something that the parks have done to themselves and they have to do it because it's expected, rather than because it's needed. In the 80s and 90s when they were very much in the ascendancy it made sense, now I really don't get wht it does.
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Capital investment is one of the key aspects of any successful theme park, it attracts repeat custom. Thankfully this is one of the few things that Merlin recognises.
 
MakoMania said:
Capital investment is one of the key aspects of any successful theme park, it attracts repeat custom. Thankfully this is one of the few things that Merlin recognises.
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Yearly I disagree, many parks don’t have a yearly investment cycle to the extent U.K. parks have tried to. The difference is on the non investment years they spend money on refreshing the existing rides.

Ideally the year after a coaster should have no new rides but £2-3 million is spent on upkeep.
 
MakoMania said:
Capital investment is one of the key aspects of any successful theme park, it attracts repeat custom. Thankfully this is one of the few things that Merlin recognises.
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I'm not disputing that is the general consensus now - I was questioning if it's one of those bizarre things that has become a thing when it shouldn't.

I've had a Pleasure Beach season pass since they were introduced and had a great time during the dry spells and the dark times. I don't dispute the suggestion, I dispute the logic behind it.
 
I think all parks should strive to *improve* year-on-year. Whether that's new rides, like Merlin, or general upkeep, like Phantasia and EP, doesn't matter, but things should at least show some care and attention. Unfortunately, Merlin seem stuck on rides being the only way to improve, when they could have refreshed Katanga Canyon (for example) instead. I do wonder how much longer this strategy will work for them, before they have to do something about other areas in the park
 
Dar said:
I think all parks should strive to *improve* year-on-year. Whether that's new rides, like Merlin, or general upkeep, like Phantasia and EP, doesn't matter, but things should at least show some care and attention. Unfortunately, Merlin seem stuck on rides being the only way to improve, when they could have refreshed Katanga Canyon (for example) instead. I do wonder how much longer this strategy will work for them, before they have to do something about other areas in the park
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This isn’t actually a Merlin only issue it’s a U.K. industry issue. The U.K. industry has always put a lot of stock in a new ride every year. It has also never been big on spending a lot of money on sustaining past rides.

The difference between the golden age tussauds era and Merlin is when Tussaud’s installed a ride it would be done to a standard that meant it lasted for a good decade without intervention. Merlin (and latter years tussauds) did a lot of cheap tat that has aged badly.

Merlin have cut deaper on operations but the U.K. has always been backward when it comes to capex spending.
 
I don't think having a new attraction every year is backward at all, it's a good thing! However, that's not to say that existing rides and areas should go unloved.
 
MakoMania said:
I don't think having a new attraction every year is backward at all, it's a good thing! However, that's not to say that existing rides and areas should go unloved.
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Totally agree with this, surely if they want more visitors and want to expand the resort, they need to make the core product bigger?
 
Has anyone seen any signs of something happening in CCL so far this season, out of interest?
 
Not sure if they would be able to do it and get the rights for the IP but I think a Batman / DC Comics area would work so well.

Ice age building gets new DC comics / Batman related 4D cinema makeover. Facade of building turned into Arkam Asylum or Gotham County Jail or Courtroom etc. Wouldn't be too difficult to pull this off.

Charlie is transformed into a batman style. Maybe a boat ride through the sewers of Gotham City meeting a few familer foes along the way.

Get the chair swing going again and give it a makeover. Could all easily fit to a DC theme.

I'm not a great fan of too many IP's being in parks but I definitely think this one if done well would perfectly fill the void between Cbeebies and the 1.4m thrill rides.
 
Yeah I know six flags have rights to use it but not sure if that includes Europe.
 
Benjsh said:
Yeah I know six flags have rights to use it but not sure if that includes Europe.
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They used them when they had European properties but I am not sure what that agreement looks like now (as in, if they were covered by an existing agreement or if a new one was signed).
 
JB1985 said:
I would imagine it would prove costly for AT
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Absolutely. However they do bring in the crowds and offer great merch opportunites to offset it.

I'd prefer an original area anyway but I think they may go down the IP route again as Cbeebies has been a huge hit.
 
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