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Spookle15 said:
Please refer to my previous post.

I generally thought the people on here where more balanced than those on social media channels, but I'm starting to see new faces on this thread and now I'm wondering if I got this place all wrong. I've just been reading a comment from someone on social media, who doesn't know TPWW, has never posted about them before, but heard what was going on and his now smearing all sorts of hate because he wants to "support the victims".

That's not supporting anyone, that's bullying someone who in the eyes of the law has done nothing wrong.

And I think that's my main issue with all of this - there is so much unproven, so many things which are hearsay, things that we don't even know where said..... yet, it's all out there now and a lot of people are just using it to bring TPWW down.

And to be honest, when this sort of thing gets on the internet, even when it's proven (which may happen) to be false.... there will always be people who won't believe that.

There are so many lives that have been ruined by throwaway comments on the internet and unfounded rumours. How is this 2020 and we've learned nothing?
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I get what your saying but unfortunately with that much money being made and followers media companies like his (and we are not talking small amounts of money) need to act responsibly. If this was itv (and remember some of his content gets more views than that shown on terrestrial TV) they would be expected to pause, take stock and have a review of the situation.

The response however was to block people, delete posts and to carry on. It has been alleged with screen shots they told one victim it was a joke. So yes it's a huge shame but out of respect of everyone involved and the cause I would have hoped they would lay low and put out a statement that has condemnation of any assult. (Without naming them).

Just because he makes a living out if it does not allow them to ignore this and TV stations have social responsibility. You tubers are no different in the eyes of the law once they make revenue. I mentioned previously the laws on filming on private property and interviewing people still apply to them. I hope the venues will step in to refuse permission to film if they (TPWW) cant address the issues swiftly with the respect the people who came forward deserve.
 
Spookle15 said:
My issue here is not what he said (because as I said, I can't judge that)
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Am I understanding this right? You can't judge from that screenshot of the group conversation as to whether what was said was racist?

If the screenshot is faked he could quite easily come out and say so and distance himself from those comments. He hasn't.
 
Well it can certainly be agreed that ultimately this should have been handled better. I agree that he does have responsibility due to his public platform the number of people who watch etc and I hope that maybe he is getting some legal advice on how to proceed. It does feel like a keep calm and carry on approach, but again, if it was me I'm not sure what I would do. I don't think I would be carrying on as normal, but that's just my fear of people laying into me.

My only issue, as I said previously is if he isn't supposed to comment on things, should other people be allowed to make almost statement on his media channels?
 
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AT86 said:
Am I understanding this right? You can't judge from that screenshot of the group conversation as to whether what was said was racist?

If the screenshot is faked he could quite easily come out and say so and distance himself from those comments. He hasn't.
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I have not seen this screenshot. I can't say this enough. I have not seen this to judge what he said. I've mentioned this at least twice, which is why I was told to do my own research. Yet I haven't found it.
 
Spookle15 said:
I have not seen this screenshot. I can't say this enough. I have not seen this to judge what he said.
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I strongly suggest you go take a look. It doesn't take much finding.

It can't be posted here because of the language (and racism) it contains.
 
To spell things out simply.
If anyone repeats the postings, they are at risk of libel action if proved incorrect.
Photoshop is out there for the naughty, nothing is completely clear with the internet!
Even reposting the tweets of others has got people in serious trouble in the civil courts, very recently.
So be very careful with your links if they directly name individuals, you are liable for what you post.
 
My biggest gripe I have with the whole situation is the lack of care and compassion tpww has with the accusers. Of everything that has come out not once they have said they are appalled with what’s been accused. It took them how many days just the change the statement to say the people involved won’t be appearing again. Then to act like nothing has happened and to carry on like normal is wrong. By all means go to parks enjoy yourself but why not just back Off the whole vlogging and internet stuff till this calms down a tad. It’s just annoying I’m a way as it’s just simple things to make the situation level. In regards to the posts and screenshots They are not part of any investigation so he could easily come out and say these have nothing to do with me. They may be real they may be faked but until he clarifys the situation it’s all a guessing game.
 
AT86 said:
I strongly suggest you go take a look. It doesn't take much finding.

It can't be posted here because of the language (and racism) it contains.
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I have now just read it.

Racist, offensive, stupid (from both sides of the conversation), downright moronic. Disappointing. It's all of these things and quite frankly more.

There is not much more I can say about it really.

Should he apologise for it to me, to you, to people who watch TPWW? Personally, I don't feel like I myself, need an apology or an explanation. If he publicly apologises for it, which might be the wrong move anyway, more people will know about something that really, did they need to know about? I am unsure about this one.

To be quite honest this has now got me thinking about what people in the public eye say to one another in private.....I adore Ian McKellen, how would I feel if he said these things like this in a private message that was then leaked. I would be disappointed in him, I would question why he even said those things. But ultimately, I would still like Ian McKellen. :confused1:
 
One last point before I shut up on this.
There was a post earlier (may have been a reposted f.book/tweet) suggesting an individual within tpww had been hospitalised following this episode, due to self harm.
That post in itself is probably illegal...whatever else, individuals have a right to privacy regarding health matters.
That would be under criminal law, not civil.
 
I have read a few more of those accounts today. Absolutely sickening and the main person accused now doesn't appear be the first name that was brought up a few days ago. The worst culprit by far it seems is a person who gets the most exposure of all other than Shawn of course.

What it does suggest though which isn't good news for Shawn is that he was actually around when some of these alleged offences took place. He clearly knows more about this than some think he does.

What a terrible mess anyway and an awful awfully dark time for TP community.

I have just sent Shawn a private message on FB saying how shocked and appalled I am at how he's attended Towers today and filmed like nothing has happened. Im still totally baffled as to why he's done this. Surely his parents would have said that maybe it's not the best idea to go. What was he thinking?
 
AT86 said:
He’s a grown man. He shouldn’t need his parents to tell him what to do.
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He still lives with them and probably will do till hes in his 30's the way he spends money on theme park trips to US etc.

I know he's an adult but these are serious allegations. Surely they may have said that going to Towers might not be the best idea. Then again I'm assuming his parents are completely decent people of course. I know for a fact my parents would have been dead against it given the severity of the claims.
 
On an unrelated but similar story of a youtuber who was always quite of an arrogant arse, they also abused their fame and raped several women. Was on the news last week on the radio. Not related at all to TPW but just saying there are people out there who take advantage of their internet fame, although they straight out denied the allegations.

I think the problem with especially solo YouTube channels is that there is a lack of professional conduct or impartiality which I never liked when companies are collaborating with these people. (eg. Promoting dodgy VPN services, given free stuff, free entry to media events)
 
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That seems like a good, sensible move and I'm glad to see that person was given a response. To be honest, I quite like it when there are fewer people in the videos.

It will be interesting to see if any of this reaches other people who have been on TPWW. There are some people out there who will actively cause trouble for some of the other people who appear on the channel just because they can.

I haven't seen much of Lee Wood, I watched a Scarefest the other day from 2017, he was pretty loud and seemed to be taking the mickey out of someone called Chris who I haven't seen before or since. But I also watched a Q&A with Lee Wood and he came across as someone totally different.

Most recently I saw Brett and he seems to be very calm, a theme park geek but a cool theme park geek. I'd really like to think if he knew things that may have been going on then he wouldn't have anything to do with the people involved. I'd also like to think he won't be affected by this just because he has been on TPWW.
 
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The problem here is that it seems that Sean's only source of income is YouTube. If he was sensible he would have removed all video's with those accused in them and put a placeholder up stating that it was a temporary measure until the full findings are made clear.

I am sure the police will investigate and in real terms there’s only one that should be quaking in his boots (if the allocations are true). The sexual harassment stuff isn't nice and it shouldn't have happened, but unless these people make complaints to the police you wonder what really could happen. I'm sure the most damaging thing will be the publicity that comes out about it.

I was a bit shocked to see he went to Towers yesterday. Surely the most sensible thing would be to keep clear - after all many of his 'fans' are very young. Until the truth comes out, if I had kids I would not be allowing them to be anywhere near that group of people. I'm also really surprised Towers let them in - surely it could have been a bit of a security issue.
 
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I think it would have been wise to remove some of the videos that feature these characters but as it stands many are still up including the one that really snowballed all this information and they are still monetised so adds are running on them.

Theres a real danger in putting all your eggs in one basket like this, we've seen before YouTube can close your channel at any time and for any reason, you have no rights to a Youtube account. And Youtube are going through a pretty hard time right now with advertisers demands.

The channel would have had to change sooner or later anyway I think because of the nature of the content and the audience, they do have a very young audience which is fine but as Shawn gets older this rightly or wrongly will create issues.
 
Don’t even need to remove them just set them to private and then wait for the outcome of the investigation. But he won’t do it unfortunately he has kept videos up with actual convicted criminals in them so the chances of him actually doing the right thing is slim.
 
Uh oh



Although with just Shaun and Charlotte it should be ok, but it won't stop people commenting things about them.

Edit: think I spoke too soon...
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