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What will be the result of the UK’s General Election?

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The last 30 years weren't in the centre either, as Thatcher lurched us hard right, that has been pretty much it for politics since, those political divisions have remained.
 
The last 30 years weren't in the centre either, as Thatcher lurched us hard right, that has been pretty much it for politics since, those political divisions have remained.

Depends what your definition of 'right' is.
All mainstream UK politics is further left than the democrats in the USA.
 
Depends what your definition of 'right' is.
All mainstream UK politics is further left than the democrats in the USA.
I’m not sure I necessarily agree with that. “Right” in the USA is certainly different to what it is in this country, but the Democrats are still ultimately a left or centre-left party. They stand for many of the same sorts of social and economic principles as Labour.

They certainly aren’t nearly as far right as, say, Reform are in this country.
 
I think they probably are.
What makes you say that? To my knowledge, the Democrats are supportive of a bigger state, as well as social liberalism, like the left-wing parties in this country are. They’re also not as focused on immigration, similarly to the left-wing parties here. That may admittedly manifest differently in the USA to in Britain, but the principle is the same.

Reform, on the other hand, are somewhat socially conservative and building their whole brand on being “anti-woke”. They are also quite staunchly anti-immigration, more akin to the US Republican Party.

Admittedly, I think the Republican Party are probably further right than anything in mainstream British politics, particularly where social conservatism is concerned, but I don’t think the US Democratic Party are as far right as you suggest.
 
I’m not sure I necessarily agree with that. “Right” in the USA is certainly different to what it is in this country, but the Democrats are still ultimately a left or centre-left party. They stand for many of the same sorts of social and economic principles as Labour.

They certainly aren’t nearly as far right as, say, Reform are in this country.
American politics is far more right wing than it is in the UK I'm afraid Matt. @shakey is right on this one.

Even if you overlook the fact that the Republicans are more to the right than the loons at Reform UK Ltd on absurd issues like affordable healthcare and abortion, in walks fascist Trump. He's something else entirely. What he's saying the moment would make Marine LePenn and Giorga Maloni blush.

I don't use facist lightly and resisted joining in the chorus between 2016 and 2020. But then when he instigated violence, and enlisted a group of thugs to intimdate people to try and frustrate the democratic process and remain in power, that's clearly authoritarianism.

He's since continued to threaten to use the legal system to get revenge on his political opponents, say distinctly racist things, shower praise on Hitler to his former Chief of Staff, and I could go on and on.

Even his mate Farage hasn't sunk that low.
 
Bernie Sanders was about as left as the democrats ever got but he proved to be too left for them so didnt get the democratic nomination. And even he would struggle to be considered left leaning in uk politics.
 
Bernie Sanders was about as left as the democrats ever got but he proved to be too left for them so didnt get the democratic nomination. And even he would struggle to be considered left leaning in uk politics.
If Sanders was a UK politician, he'd pretty much be your bog standard Ed Milliband or Gordon Brown kind of guy. More centre than left.

Yet in America, he's seen as a "commie", what with his highly controversial Hammer and Sickle style views such as universal healthcare free at the point of use, and employers not being able to sack people just for laughs. That's pretty much Stalinist stuff to the Yanks.

But in Sanders defence, his fired chicken seems to be quite popular, even if the yanks have to pay through the nose for the health issues that it causes (if a bullet doesn't catch them first).
 
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