• ā„¹ļø Heads up...

    This is a popular topic that is fast moving Guest - before posting, please ensure that you check out the first post in the topic for a quick reminder of guidelines, and importantly a summary of the known facts and information so far. Thanks.
  • āš ļø Online Safety Act Changes

    We've made some changes to the forum as a result of the Online Safety Act. Please check the post in guest services for further information.

[šŸŒŽ Universal GB] General Discussion

It would be difficult to create a brand new HP world, it felt like they were even scraping the barrel a bit with ā€˜Wizarding Paris’. However rides/shows etc, there could still be tons of unique ideas that haven’t been done before - it’d just be fitting them into a suitable themed area.

They could lean into New York or wherever that magic creatures film was set. Or just do it based on the magical creatures film; only the first one though because the others don't exist.

I'm sure they could make something fun around a niffler stealing coins
 
The sun isnt the greatest source in the world as we know and the article doesn't seem to be well researched either so we can still take what is said here with a massive pinch of salt I guess.

If they do go Potter though.....I wonder which ride/s they will opt for?

I will be honest....if all we end up with is yet another Forbidden Journey clone I will be bitterly bitterly disappointed. If it has to be Potter then Im hoping its something you cant experience in Orlando.
Their showbiz and entertainment reporting is top tier and usually very accurate tbf, I’d be inclined to believe this due to the inevitable crossover and the fact it’s being reported by that department with their sources
 
What are the existing Harry Potter ride systems? I believe there are 2 unique dark rides selectively developed, Forbidden Journey and Epic Universes new offering right? The former must be over 20 years old so that seems unlikely to be replicated in its current form…
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Back to Universal, what are the existing Harry Potter ride systems? I believe there are 2 unique dark rides selectively developed, Forbidden Journey and Epic Universes new offering right? The former must be over 20 years old so that seems unlikely to be replicated in its current form…

The screen quality is what badly lets down Forbidden Journey. I never get motion sickness on dark rides but I do on this and always seems to be the screen segments that do it.

Sure the KUKU arm technology has evolved but it's not massively different in Monsters unchained. Just the quality of the theming really and screens which is the noticeable difference.

Monsters is now my No 1 dark ride in the world.
 
Back to Universal, what are the existing Harry Potter ride systems? I believe there are 2 unique dark rides selectively developed, Forbidden Journey and Epic Universes new offering right? The former must be over 20 years old so that seems unlikely to be replicated in its current form…

In terms of ride systems, we have:
  • Forbidden Journey (KUKA RoboCoaster) - While it’s the oldest Harry Potter ride, it was recently used for Monsters Unchained in Epic Universe, so evidently still has life left in it.
  • Hagrid’s (Intamin Family Launch Coaster)
  • Hogwarts Express (Train)
  • Gringotts (Intamin Multidimensional Coaster)
  • Flight of the Hippogriff (Vekoma/Mack family coaster; newer versions have trended towards Mack)
  • Battle at the Ministry (Trackless dark ride)
  • Dragon Challenge (B&M Inverted Coasters) - Technically an option, but I doubt Universal would go for this seeing as JK Rowling was said not to like the rides and they were removed from the original land in Islands of Adventure without being replicated.
So there are quite a few to choose from, and that excludes the possibility that Universal could develop something new.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Back to Universal, what are the existing Harry Potter ride systems? I believe there are 2 unique dark rides selectively developed, Forbidden Journey and Epic Universes new offering right? The former must be over 20 years old so that seems unlikely to be replicated in its current form…
Currently there is Forbidden Journey which is a Kuka arm and Monsters Unchained at Epic uses the same (or very similar) system, Gringotts which is a coaster with a motion base, Hagrids motorcycle is a coaster with launches and trick track sections. Then the Hogwarts Express train and the old Hippogriff kiddie coaster. I'm not sure what type of ride Battle at the Ministry is at Epic as I'm avoiding spoilers, but Epic also has a show.

They could use coasters or the Kuka arm system again just with different stories of course.
 
The screen quality is what badly lets down Forbidden Journey. I never get motion sickness on dark rides but I do on this and always seems to be the screen segments that do it.

It’s funny, I went on it at USJ last year and didn’t notice the screen quality but my friend felt so unwell after she had to sit down in the exit area (where that was actually a dedicated waiting area for this!)

I went on again this year and really noticed the screen quality this time. An updated version with whatever they’re using at DisneySea would be amazing.
 
If they are going to do Harry Potter, we'll get brand new attractions. Those attractions will probably be the same ride systems Universal are known for but they will be new. Mark Woodbury said a few days ago they didn't want UGB to cannibalise visitors from UOR.
 
A VR-based Quidditch ride was allegedly designed and then scrapped at the last moment before construction was due to begin at Universal Studios Florida. The reason was supposedly that a very similar experience unexpectedly opened, licensed by WB, in New York City. This could potentially be re-purposed.
The idea of a Quidditch ride is cool! But I sincerely hope that VR is something they wouldn’t bring given that the 2010s arguably taught us that VR in theme parks is largely not very good…
 
If they are going to do Harry Potter, we'll get brand new attractions. Those attractions will probably be the same ride systems Universal are known for but they will be new. Mark Woodbury said a few days ago they didn't want UGB to cannibalise visitors from UOR.
I can't see Harry Potter being at the UK park full stop...

The public love to generalise experiences - "Harry Potter World" is what many people would refer to it, and once you've been to a "Harry Potter World", you certainly wouldn't pay 4 or 5 figures to go abroad for what would be viewed as a US imitation. You may go and visit the mouse however.
 
I can't see Harry Potter being at the UK park full stop...

The public love to generalise experiences - "Harry Potter World" is what many people would refer to it, and once you've been to a "Harry Potter World", you certainly wouldn't pay 4 or 5 figures to go abroad for what would be viewed as a US imitation. You may go and visit the mouse however.

Nor I. But I'm going on the assumption that the article from The S*n is correct, seeing as that's what the line of speculation is today.

Funnily enough the Orlando resort is already considered 'Harry Potter Land'.
 
I can't see Harry Potter being at the UK park full stop...

The public love to generalise experiences - "Harry Potter World" is what many people would refer to it, and once you've been to a "Harry Potter World", you certainly wouldn't pay 4 or 5 figures to go abroad for what would be viewed as a US imitation. You may go and visit the mouse however.
On the other hand, one could argue that ā€œthe mouseā€ being in Europe does not deter people from going to the USA Disney resorts.

The Disney resort in Paris did not cannibalise the resort in Orlando.

Therefore, Harry Potter could potentially coexist in Europe alongside the Orlando resort.
 
The idea of a Quidditch ride is cool! But I sincerely hope that VR is something they wouldn’t bring given that the 2010s arguably taught us that VR in theme parks is largely not very good…

Tweak the AR they are using for Mario Kart in Epic. I am generally of the opinion that VR is a disaster that should be confined to the scrapheap like 3DTV, doubly so for people who have eyesight issues that just stop it working completely, but an augmented reality headset for various aspects of Harry Potter world could have its uses if done well.
 
The Avatar: Flight of Passage technology would work far better with Broom flying than the Kuka Arm Tech does.

The movement of it on FJ doesn't quite work for me and it doesn't make you feel like you're flying a broom to me at all. I believe it fits with the Monsters unchained story far better.
 
On the other hand, one could argue that ā€œthe mouseā€ being in Europe does not deter people from going to the USA Disney resorts.

The Disney resort in Paris did not cannibalise the resort in Orlando.

Therefore, Harry Potter could potentially coexist in Europe alongside the Orlando resort.
Is there any data on this? As in not WDW footfall as a whole, but no decrease in visits from the UK & mainland Europe?
 
Is there any data on this? As in not WDW footfall as a whole, but no decrease in visits from the UK & mainland Europe?
I’ll admit I don’t have any specific data on this, but as WDW has only gone from strength to strength and grown exponentially in visitor figures in the time since DLP opened, I think it’s safe to say that if there were people disincentivised from going to America as a result of DLP, they didn’t have a significant impact on the overall bottom line of the Orlando resort.
 
There is also the possibility this could be for a future expansion. The TV show is due to run for 7 seasons so plenty of time to develop new attractions.and locations.

I'm still hoping for something Lord of The Rings but I'd take Harry Potter over Shrek any day of the week
 
Top