WDW Hollywood Studios: General Discussion

[Benzin]

It was meant very tongue in cheek, especially as I'd prefer a Muppets overlay than the Avengers version it got.

 

[Tim]

Oh?

Big Thunder Mountain - better in Paris
Tower of Terror - better in Paris
Pirates of the Caribbean - better in Paris
Phantom Manor/Haunted Mansion - better in Paris

In my view, anyway.

Tower of Terror is a controversial one. I love ToT in Paris but the original is a masterpiece.
Although I havn't been since Paris added the new stories.

I won't disagree with the others, but I will note that they all opened with the park.

 

[Ash]

Although given Universal Orlando opened about the same time and the only original attraction left is ET it isn’t that surprising either.

Indeed, for the most part I’d say it’s different than in the UK bus their attractions are tied to IP/Films which themselves become dated.

However with unique IP in the UK I’d say that’s not the case. I.e. Nemesis as a brand wasn’t dated, that was the issue that people stopped caring. Quite the opposite, I think its enduring nature strengthened the brand.

In the US however people hadn’t seen a new film for decades and its relevance to pop culture had wained. Also the majority of the time, what was replaced was 9/10 better than the original. Which in the UK is often not the case (Toyland tours, ride removals, Ug Land removal) and Alton in particular hasn’t overall increased its total rides now in a considerable length of time.

 

[Leigh]

Not sure if it’s related to Hollywood Studios specifically, but it (was) attached to the park so I guess it’s relevant.

Disney have just announced what’s going into the space occupied by the acclaimed Galactic Starcruiser themed hotel/LARP thing. It’s going to be turned into… offices for Walt Disney Imagineering.

Money well spent IMO.

 

[AT86]

Hoping they add a few windows for the poor folk having to work in there.

 

[Ben]

Please sit in your windowless cell and work, theresatiny bunk bed if you want a lie down. please do not leave your room you will only be surrounded by expensive failure.

 

[flyingguitar]

Indeed, for the most part I’d say it’s different than in the UK bus their attractions are tied to IP/Films which themselves become dated.

However with unique IP in the UK I’d say that’s not the case. I.e. Nemesis as a brand wasn’t dated, that was the issue that people stopped caring. Quite the opposite, I think its enduring nature strengthened the brand.

In the US however people hadn’t seen a new film for decades and its relevance to pop culture had wained. Also the majority of the time, what was replaced was 9/10 better than the original. Which in the UK is often not the case (Toyland tours, ride removals, Ug Land removal) and Alton in particular hasn’t overall increased its total rides now in a considerable length of time.

It could be partially ip, with rides like back to the future. but you also have to remember universal are running these rides at their maximum capacity for like 12 hours 7 days a week for the whole year, this leads to much higher wear.

A lot of the rides are worn out by like 25 years, it was when Hulk was retracked, dragons went, and much more. They all go through an insane number of trains, the theoretical max number of trains for hagrids is 12 (although it normally opperates with like 10 as it is too unreliable with more) all of them are constantly moving, that is a lot of wear.

You can compare it to disney but a lot of their rides (especially older rides) are more simple and lower force (take big thunder mountain) and also under go retracking effort as we are seeing with big thunder mountain.

Tbh I am quite surprised that Disney have kept areosmith it is getting quite unreliable going down for months at a time frequently for "refurbishment".

I am happy it isn't getting turned into avengers and hopefully they will choose to turn the cars thing next to it into a new muppet vision, but they are still only using IP which is something disney aren't doing well as a lot of it just feels like some manager said "x IP is popular add it to a park" and it was crammed in where it dosnt fit, some of disneys best stuff have been the non/loosely based IP themes, everest, space mountain, big thunder, pirates of the carabean, haunted mansion and so much more

 

[Maelstrom]

It could be partially ip, with rides like back to the future. but you also have to remember universal are running these rides at their maximum capacity for like 12 hours 7 days a week for the whole year, this leads to much higher wear.

A lot of the rides are worn out by like 25 years, it was when Hulk was retracked, dragons went, and much more. They all go through an insane number of trains, the theoretical max number of trains for hagrids is 12 (although it normally opperates with like 10 as it is too unreliable with more) all of them are constantly moving, that is a lot of wear.

You can compare it to disney but a lot of their rides (especially older rides) are more simple and lower force (take big thunder mountain) and also under go retracking effort as we are seeing with big thunder mountain.

Tbh I am quite surprised that Disney have kept areosmith it is getting quite unreliable going down for months at a time frequently for "refurbishment".

I am happy it isn't getting turned into avengers and hopefully they will choose to turn the cars thing next to it into a new muppet vision, but they are still only using IP which is something disney aren't doing well as a lot of it just feels like some manager said "x IP is popular add it to a park" and it was crammed in where it dosnt fit, some of disneys best stuff have been the non/loosely based IP themes, everest, space mountain, big thunder, pirates of the carabean, haunted mansion and so much more

The most recent long spells of downtime for rock n roller (start of 2023 and 2024 where it was closed for multi month refurb was to address the issues rather than it being directly caused by issues. I believe it has involved electric/sensors replacements and the launch system which was causing the most issues was replaced in last years lengthy refurb.

 

[flyingguitar]

The most recent long spells of downtime for rock n roller (start of 2023 and 2024 where it was closed for multi month refurb was to address the issues rather than it being directly caused by issues. I believe it has involved electric/sensors replacements and the launch system which was causing the most issues was replaced in last years lengthy refurb.

I guess but I recall hearing similar things the last couple times it has went down, it also is like a 26 year old vekoma space mountain at DLP is only like 4 years older and as they have been constantly run with not much retracking I think they are getting quite rough.