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2020: General Discussion

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djtruefitt said:
Incase people haven’t seen, fastrack is now available on even more rides, now including nemesis, wicker man, the smiler, oblivion, spinball, Galactica, Rita and randomly the runaway mine train! And the biggest shock, each one costs £10!

Also looks like it will be added to TH13TEEN soon as plastic screens have been placed in the queue line.
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Oh god that won't do the throughput of the main queue any good
 
At £10 a time I would expect the price to be a good mechanism to limit sales.

I’ve thought for years that Fastrack should be way more expensive. Sell less tickets for more cost so the revenue stays steady, but the impact it has on standby queues is minimised.
 
skyscraper said:
Thought RAP guests were already using the Fast Track queue? They can't use the usual RAP entrance so I don't know how they'll re-intergrate Fast Track, unless they both use the Fast Track entrance.
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By the looks of it the current RAP entrance will not change, with RAP users continuing to use the gate by the former baggage store. Fastrack users will use the right-hand set of stairs into the building as before. I'm not sure whether they'll split FT & RAP at the old FT/SRQ entrances or at the bag store, either way would probably work. This arrangement should ensure all paths are one-way and people are able to keep apart
 
John said:
By the looks of it the current RAP entrance will not change, with RAP users continuing to use the gate by the former baggage store. Fastrack users will use the right-hand set of stairs into the building as before. I'm not sure whether they'll split FT & RAP at the old FT/SRQ entrances or at the bag store, either way would probably work. This arrangement should ensure all paths are one-way and people are able to keep apart
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Ah so RAP use the Fast Track queue then split off?
I didn't think Thirteen had a single rider queue?
 
FT and SR were the same queue until just before baggage like smiler is, anyone know if they are doing the VIP FT now, my VIP is still valid and I’ve heard mixed answers?
 
Oblivion was almost pain yesterday. Across the park, you had Wicker Man stopping on the lift as it was throwing trains out so fast, Galactica staff stood waiting for trains to turn up, even Rita doing fairly well. I've no idea what management have against Oblivion but it seems they want to cripple it's throughput over the last few years. Now with COVID it's a snails pace. I presume they hold gates to stop off and onload mixing at the cages but you spend more time feet up in the brake run than anything else.
 
Oblivion ops a couple weeks ago when I was there were actually throwing shuttles out very, very quickly to be honest with not too much waiting time on the brake run.
 
I thought Oblivion was supposedly the park’s highest throughput coaster (I think I heard 1,800pph thrown around, with the next highest being Nemesis at 1,400)? I know COVID will naturally reduce this figure somewhat, but it should surely still stand on top of the other rides?

As @Danscott22 said, however, I’ve also found Oblivion to have pretty quick dispatches on the whole. To be honest, I think most things at Towers are pretty good; Smiler is probably the slowest (I clocked it at 494pph when I last rode in July 2020, and that’s presuming full trains), but I think that one has been more adversely affected than other rides with regard to COVID procedures, so I think they’re doing well within what they can feasibly achieve.
 
Oblivion operations have been mediocre for years but as it generally has short queues it's not too much of an issue most of the time. It certainly seemed quite a bit slower this year though - whenever I've ridden it they seem to end up with 4 shuttles sat on the brake run more often than not. Unless they can do something to speed things up there's no point in running it on 6 at the moment.

Still, with a queue to the entrance you can be on in 25 minutes or so. The queue has probably never moved faster (only because when it was operated well each side of the station had entirely separate queues, but still)
 
AT86 said:
At £10 a time I would expect the price to be a good mechanism to limit sales.

I’ve thought for years that Fastrack should be way more expensive. Sell less tickets for more cost so the revenue stays steady, but the impact it has on standby queues is minimised.
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Totally agree, when it was a fastrack bundle for all rides punters used to them to skip 10 minute queues, which made the 10 minute queue into a 20 minute one.
Now it's £10 a shot that doesn't happen anymore, you only buy a fastrack if the queue is long and don't bother if it's about 20 minutes.
 
spinba11 said:
Oblivion was designed to always have a train on the lift wasn’t it?
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Yes but with the two stations in operation, both vehicals can be despatched from the station with one car going on the lift and the second waiting outside the station just before the lift, thus freeing up the station for 2 new vehicals to be unloaded and re loaded.
 
DistortAMG said:
Yes but with the two stations in operation, both vehicals can be despatched from the station with one car going on the lift and the second waiting outside the station just before the lift, thus freeing up the station for 2 new vehicals to be unloaded and re loaded.
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This.
 
Oblivion is a pain sometimes when it comes to sitting on the brake run, I’ve always wondered if it is possible for them to use the second bay as an unload section even if they aren’t loading from it. It would considerably reduce wait time on the brake run, however I’d imagine operating systems and safety protocols prevent this happening.
 
Nope, it's not possible to do that. In dual station both shuttles are advanced and dispatched together. Also even if it was technically possible, no guests are permitted on the platform when trains are advanced or dispatched so it wouldn't help much.

The other interesting thing is both shuttles have to park before the harnesses release. I've experienced it on Sheikra where I was in the first shuttle, it parked but harnesses remained locked. We had to wait for the other shuttle which was about 30 seconds behind us to be advanced in to the station as well before it released us.
 
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