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2020: General Discussion

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Tom said:
If there is no system of time slots for rides or anything else, and it's a free-for-all as per normal, I can't see much beyond say 3,000 working.

Incidentally, they canned the early-November days because this was the sort of attendance they were getting. Assuming that was loss-making, then I am not sure how they will be able to proceed viably.

Also, I think the massive thing not really being considered is now many people will want to go under the described conditions, and in the current point in the pandemic. I can seriously see the numbers being in the hundreds on any given day, and I'd have to ask how viable that is.
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I've seen what walibi holland have been doing for virtual queue time slots and it looks a right pain in the arse. Book a time slot, once it gets to that time then you join the virtual queue, then you're notified when you can get on. You can only book a time slot after you've been on a ride. With that sort process, you'd only get on like 5 rides in a day! I'm seriously considering asking for a refund now as that's what I can see towers doing
 
Ethan said:
I've seen what walibi holland have been doing for virtual queue time slots and it looks a right pain in the arse. Book a time slot, once it gets to that time then you join the virtual queue, then you're notified when you can get on. You can only book a time slot after you've been on a ride.
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Aka Legoland rap when they first changed from paper.

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Ethan said:
There's no other option apart from virtual queue now as there's no way social distancing in queues will work
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How do you know? Did you visit Chessington or Legoland the week before lockdown was enforced, where social distancing in queuing was actually working quite well?
 
Ethan said:
There's no other option apart from virtual queue now as there's no way social distancing in queues will work
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Shanghai Disneyland are using social distancing in queue lines and it seems to be working pretty well? And since Towers doesn't really have cattlepen queues it should be able to be implemented even easier, barr the odd attraction.
 
More important question: how many people who aren't MAP holders will want to visit?

The hardcore geeks will visit regardless but that's little use for Towers if noone else does.
 
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John said:
More important question: how many people who aren't MAP holders will want to visit?

The hardcore geeks will visit regardless but that's little use for them if noone else does.
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after the summer season I doubt the demand will be High from September onwards. With no events this year by looks of it and everyone back in work and school by September it’s not going to be a huge amount. The problem is the prebooking for me if I find myself having a free day out the blue I wouldn’t want to pre book days in advance just in case. I’m just interested to see what hours they will do from September onwards. I think they might do an Oakwood but with the odd few days during the week.
 
I don't believe the MAP holders are the demographic that is likely to make it viable, but if it's purely about loss-management then perhaps it will survive.

I would suggest that it's not being widely considered how horrendous visiting under the proposed restrictions will be. I personally would not visit under the scenario described in yesterday's blog post. I think there are serious questions over whether these things can be managed properly in terms of people congregation etc. There are going to be viral and tabloid-published photos of 'crowds at Alton Towers'. It could easily be a PR disaster.
 
Let's assume the park gets to capacity, is there a ratio of passholders to paying guests where it doesn't make sense to operate if it's not met?

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imanautie said:
Let's assume the park gets to capacity, is there a ratio of passholders to paying guests where it doesn't make sense to operate if it's not met?
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Probably, but not one anyone would be able to work out without seeing the intricate finances of a park.

People are forgetting spend aside from the gate though. Admission only makes up a small part of the income of a park - spend on food and drink, retail, on-ride photography (...OK maybe not that one for the immediate future lol), fast-track etc. is all significant.
 
Islander said:
Probably, but not one anyone would be able to work out without seeing the intricate finances of a park.

People are forgetting spend aside from the gate though. Admission only makes up a small part of the income of a park - spend on food and drink, retail, on-ride photography (...OK maybe not that one for the immediate future lol), fast-track etc. is all significant.
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True, Although don't map holders tend not to spend lots on individual trips?

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Pleasure Beach Valhalla said:
Same and that would make it easier, but imagine parks with a massive cattlepen queueline trying to do social distancing.
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Exactly, and there's the problem with rides like the smiler. Also how will virtual queues even work as they say you're put in a virtual queue once it gets to your time slot, but surely if there's an hour virtual queue for example, then as soon as you can get on the ride then everyone else will be at the same time?
 
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