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[2024] Nemesis Reborn: Construction and Speculation
Skyscraper
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I second this, would look amazing at night!Whatever happens, they would be fools not to install the spotlights under each row, as seen in Monster. They would look incredible in red
The trains will have almost certainly undergone a lot of force in there lifetime and will likely need replacing at some point, it would seem the best time to do it at the same time as the re-track for me. I imagine the new style trains wouldn't ride drastically different but as @Poisson says they may well just got with the original style as to not overcomplicate things. Merlin will want B&M to be doing this as cheap as possible without changing the experience.
The brake run is under very considerable stress!I think they’re only replacing parts that have undergone significant stress during the ride’s life, aren’t they? Hence why the lift hill and brake run aren’t going.
As for the trains, maybe they could replace them with the newer style to lower strain on the track? I’d imagine that less weight will lead to less strain placed on the track.
All that mass and momentum, coming to a quick halt in a short time and track length.
Marshal-B33J
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I would think there is more force on the trains than the track under breaking.
DistortAMG
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I think it really depends on if there is a need to swap out the trains for the new track (I don't understand why there would be) but more importantly, how old the components in those trains are ... none of the consumables will be original at this point.
If the station, lift hill etc are all good for another 30 years, the ride obviously (quite logically) hasn't aged at the same rate throughout.
The consumables no. The chassis yes. Fully original. This is also 80% of a train. It will be the condition of this that determines new trains or not. Due to it being 30 years it old, it is going to have metal fatigue and it is going to need more work as the years go on. So for this specific reason, I think we will see new trains.
Metal fatigue is the main aging element in track and metal like this. It will not age evenly because low stress areas such as the lift and station are exactly that, low stress areas, areas where fatigue will not develop. The chassis of the train, which as I said, are the original, will have fatigue developing like the high stress parts of the track. As years go on, this will get worse. You cannot fix fatigue then the metal performs like new. It still gets worse year on year. Hence the need for a re track. It is not until the crystals are re forged (in brand new steel) that fatigue resets so to speak.
The consumables only make up a small part of the train. That is very important to remember.
As for the stress in the break run, most of it would be transferred straight to the supports which are over engineered for this reason. It is a lateral and not a vertical force at the break run, this is why you see lateral bracing in this area. The trains would see a bit of stress, not much on the track itself. The load transfers straight to the supports via the track spine.
EDIT, thinking about this in detail today at work. Rob666 is correct. However, the forces placed upon the superstructure for stopping a train are mostly compressive, (compressive on the track and spine, more so tensile on the supports). Compressive forces are very very difficult for fatigue and fatigue based fractures to form (within certain parameters). Especially if the superstructure dissipates the force very well (which it appears to do). The tensile forces placed upon most of the free running track is a playground for fatigue to form, especially due to them being quite large, as the ride is quite forceful. But bottom line there is, Rob666 is correct in what he says. Just the way the ride is setup means it deals with the forces in a totally different way.
The beauty of structural engineering eh. I'll stop with the mini science lessons now. Roll on the reopening!!!
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Danscott22
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That’s so nice that they did that hope some form of recognition gets back to them one way or another
Danscott22
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How nice of them to roll out a red carpet on The Smiler for his next visit 
On a serious note though, clearly they did a great job as it managed to make someone's day. With the park not being at its best in 2022 in my opinion (presentation wise and ride availability wise), it's great to see that the staff members will go to extra mile to make someone's day special, and creating that little bit of extra magic that can be hard to find on present day visits.
On a serious note though, clearly they did a great job as it managed to make someone's day. With the park not being at its best in 2022 in my opinion (presentation wise and ride availability wise), it's great to see that the staff members will go to extra mile to make someone's day special, and creating that little bit of extra magic that can be hard to find on present day visits.
They said the best not the worst.How nice of them to roll out a red carpet on The Smiler for his next visit![]()
Danscott22
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I know, I read it correctlyThey said the best not the worst.
Skyscraper
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I was thinking the same, would be lovely but the press won't be interested as it's not a negative story.Would be nice for a story like this to make the press rather than the usual 'guests stuck for hours' tripe they seem to pick up on...

Matt N
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The monorail isn’t open this morning due to “work on Nemmy”… take from that what you will.
Preliminary work for the retrack, perhaps? I’m sure Nemesis V1 isn’t done yet, but maybe they’re doing some preparatory work?
I’ll see what I can see when I walk through FV.
Preliminary work for the retrack, perhaps? I’m sure Nemesis V1 isn’t done yet, but maybe they’re doing some preparatory work?
I’ll see what I can see when I walk through FV.