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Ted
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Adam
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Dave
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Flying on a plane....
One way to New York = equivalent exposure of one chest x-ray
One CT abdomen scan creates a 1/6000 chance of inducing a fatal cancer (often 2 scans are done in one examination).
Trust me Fukishima doesn't come close to the amount of radiation exposure caused in Hospitals.... But thanks to IRMER that's perfectly legal
One way to New York = equivalent exposure of one chest x-ray
One CT abdomen scan creates a 1/6000 chance of inducing a fatal cancer (often 2 scans are done in one examination).
Trust me Fukishima doesn't come close to the amount of radiation exposure caused in Hospitals.... But thanks to IRMER that's perfectly legal
Harv
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So that the Cold War junkies can have a good old natter, I have a hypothetical question;
I live in Scarborough, North Yorkshire. Imagine that tomorrow, Russia went to war and bombed the UK. Would I stand a chance of survival, and if so, what chance?
Not that this kind of thing keeps me awake at night on a frequent basis, or anything.
I live in Scarborough, North Yorkshire. Imagine that tomorrow, Russia went to war and bombed the UK. Would I stand a chance of survival, and if so, what chance?
Not that this kind of thing keeps me awake at night on a frequent basis, or anything.
DiogoJ42
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In the "countdown begins" topic I posted a couple of maps of likely targets in the UK. Can't link to them easily right now as I'm on the tube.
Nukemap is a good tool for estimating your chances, if you know what your nearest target would be. It even estimates fallout now (just remember that depends on wind direction.)
I've always said, if you see a mushroom cloud, run towards[/] it.
Nukemap is a good tool for estimating your chances, if you know what your nearest target would be. It even estimates fallout now (just remember that depends on wind direction.)
I've always said, if you see a mushroom cloud, run towards[/] it.
Poisson
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DiogoJ42 said:I've always said, if you see a mushroom cloud, run towards[/] it.
This is the correct attitude. Die quickly than slowly of hunger or radiation poisoning....
The 4 minute warning is for you to get as close to the blast as possible
DiogoJ42
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I think these days they wouldn't give a "warning" at all. Aside from the fact that the infastructure to pass it on, and the sirens themselves no longer exist, what would be the point?
There a some interesting mock ups on youtube of what it might look like if the Beeb interrupted normal programming with the message "ATTACK WARNING RED". But I doubt the powers that be would tell us. They would be too busy scrambling for their own shelters.
There a some interesting mock ups on youtube of what it might look like if the Beeb interrupted normal programming with the message "ATTACK WARNING RED". But I doubt the powers that be would tell us. They would be too busy scrambling for their own shelters.
Rose Of Dawn
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Poisson
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http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/architecture/brutal-and-bleak-englands-modern-architectural-gems-join-heritage-list-8827727.html
Seems like we aren't the only ones to appreciate cold war bunkers (Also I bet the Sheffield building is also a bunker)
Seems like we aren't the only ones to appreciate cold war bunkers (Also I bet the Sheffield building is also a bunker)
DiogoJ42
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I think part of the justification for brutalist architecture was that reinforced concrete is much better at surviving blast overpressure. Certainly when it comes to things like power substations and telephone exchanges. Obviously it wouldn't survive a direct hit, but no surface building would anyway.
While not brutalist in design, the BT Tower (or Post Office Tower as it was called when it was built) is round in shape to help deflect blast waves around it. One of the main reasons it was built was to provide microwave links to various parts of the country. Officially for TV and phone lines... Unofficially for military communication that would be vital in times of war, especially if landlines have been destroyed. In theory the tower was designed to survive a medium size atomic blast over central London. Of course, once we started building multi megaton thermonuclear weapons this was all pointless.
A little known fact is that dispite being one of the city's most world famous landmarks, for many years it was not marked on any OS map due how important it was to military / government communication!
While not brutalist in design, the BT Tower (or Post Office Tower as it was called when it was built) is round in shape to help deflect blast waves around it. One of the main reasons it was built was to provide microwave links to various parts of the country. Officially for TV and phone lines... Unofficially for military communication that would be vital in times of war, especially if landlines have been destroyed. In theory the tower was designed to survive a medium size atomic blast over central London. Of course, once we started building multi megaton thermonuclear weapons this was all pointless.
A little known fact is that dispite being one of the city's most world famous landmarks, for many years it was not marked on any OS map due how important it was to military / government communication!
DiogoJ42
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Meh, I'll double post:
Very interesting article on Nuclear Secrecy about one of the many "oops" moments where the USAF almost accidently nuked themselves...
http://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2013/09/27/final-switch-goldsboro-1961/
Hell, there's even a short video clip from a training film for people who design safety systems on nukes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2wR11pGsYk#
Worth reading the whole article though.
Very interesting article on Nuclear Secrecy about one of the many "oops" moments where the USAF almost accidently nuked themselves...
http://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2013/09/27/final-switch-goldsboro-1961/
Hell, there's even a short video clip from a training film for people who design safety systems on nukes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2wR11pGsYk#
Worth reading the whole article though.