Apple announcement 12/09/12 - iPhone 5?

[Towseriv]

No.
I have a first gen iPad, which I have never stopped slating since I got it. I have never recomended it to anyone because of it's major flaws. It has ONE use: surfing... and even then, it crashes several tmes an hour.
However, I still use it because I paid a shagload of cash for it and I intend to get my money's worth. Will I buy another one? Not a chance.

I will agree with you on one thing though, my old school iPod works fine. Probably because it is only designed to play music, not try and be a jack of all trades.

But surely this proves that I have at least given Apple a chance, and decided I don't like them from personal experience, rather than just blindly hating for no reason.

Funny that since I own an IPad 2 and have had no issues what so ever. Also I think you will find unless you are using it for apps as well then it is just a surfing tablet yes, which is better than the other load of tablets out there whouch pretty much just browse and thats it.

 

[Martin]

Can I just clarify what i meant by my comment - which I accept has come across wrong. Firstly, I dont think everyone that buys an iPhone is stupid. I know I said it, but I didnt mean it as such. What i should have said and what i meant is that the people who queue up outside the shops for days on end to be first in the queue around the world are stupid. I dont get it.

Just like they probably dont get someone who will queue up hours for a roller coaster, or follow the construction of one!

Queuing up for hours for the release of a consumer device simply to have it first is a terrible, terrible surrender to capitalism and consumerism. Queuing and rushing to give a company your money in return for a cold piece of unnecessary technology before anyone else is simply embarrassing.

Queuing up for hours for food and assistance is simply becasue it is rationed is a terrible, terrible consequnece of communism but that happens in those countries. Also the use of the term unnecessary is subjective not objective and therefore a matter of opinion. Also I would give you the car comparison where people used to trade in a car they had for less than a year simply to have the "new" number plate but that happened and nobody slated them for it.

Where did I advocate communism? Where did I even slate capitalism? I simply said queuing for consumer products is a bad symptom of capitalism. Queuing for rationed food isn't a consequence of communism, it's a consequence of failed communism.

People need food. If they have to queue for it because their system has failed them, that's rational and normal. People don't need the latest iphone or training shoe, queuing up for them is a sad defeat to capitalism gone mad. Those people might as well just bend over and let Apple do some things we're not allowed to talk about in this forum.

 

[T]

I'm sorry, but this is single handedly the most pathetic discussion in a topic I've come across in all my time on TTF & TST. It now doesn't even represent the iPhone 5 in any form whatsoever. People have read the word 'Apple' & taken the chance to slur the company for everything it's ever done.

This topic was, and still IS for discussing said newly announced iDevice, not for making absolutely absurd comparisons to things that aren't in any way, shape or form, connected to the Kenote!

Ach!


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[Alastair]

I'm sorry, but this is single handedly the most pathetic discussion in a topic I've come across in all my time on TTF & TST. It now doesn't even represent the iPhone 5 in any form whatsoever. People have read the word 'Apple' & taken the chance to slur the company for everything it's ever done.

This topic was, and still IS for discussing said newly announced iDevice, not for making absolutely absurd comparisons to things that aren't in any way, shape or form, connected to the Kenote!

Ach!


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The bottom line is Apple have released what is likely to be another excellent phone - with some functional updates that should increase the practicality of it for many people (bar the new connector). The fact that it is not much different from the previous model does not negate the useful updates.

 

[Tom]

I'm sorry, but this is single handedly the most pathetic discussion in a topic I've come across in all my time on TTF & TST. It now doesn't even represent the iPhone 5 in any form whatsoever. People have read the word 'Apple' & taken the chance to slur the company for everything it's ever done.

This topic was, and still IS for discussing said newly announced iDevice, not for making absolutely absurd comparisons to things that aren't in any way, shape or form, connected to the Kenote!

Ach!


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The bottom line is Apple have released what is likely to be another excellent phone - with some functional updates that should increase the practicality of it for many people (bar the new connector). The fact that it is not much different from the previous model does not negate the useful updates.

Do you work in their marketing department?

 

[Blizzard]

I wish people would stop getting so up tight about it! Its just A PHONE!

If apple choose to release a phone that isn't up to peoples expectations; fine. It is their decision how they manage the company, if they dissapoint, they dissapoint. We have all lived quite well without an amazing, ultra modern sophisticated iphone 5, so why does everyone suddenly "Require" one now?

If you're that bothered, just carry on using your current phone, you don't HAVE to upgrade it everytime a new one comes out. Support & updates is still given to previous generation iphones, so an iphone 4, is very much an "Up to date" product. So long as you like it, thats all that matters. If you feel that the newer version is better & youre willing to fork out for it. Then by all means do so!

What i'm trying to say is just calm down!

 

[GaryH]

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[Fredward]

I was really hoping this apple announcement would dispel the horrible rumours going around for years whether they really do keep the doctor away....

I'm sad my question remains unanswered...

 

[Jordan]

I thought The Telegraph's Matt cartoon for tomorrow is quite funny:

 

[James]

I'm being a naughty moderator and posting pictures. But this got me in stitches.

 

[Blizzard]

I'm being a naughty moderator and posting pictures. But this got me in stitches.

If the apps were twice the size & it had the colours & curvature of the iPod Nano 5th gen; that would be a pretty cool landline phone!

 

[Danny]

I'm being a naughty moderator and posting pictures. But this got me in stitches.

Pfft.

 

[DiogoJ42]

Now, if Apple made lightsabers... or "iSabers", as they would no doubt call them... Even their harshest crittic would be forced to STFU and queue up for one!

 

[Alastair]

I'm sorry, but this is single handedly the most pathetic discussion in a topic I've come across in all my time on TTF & TST. It now doesn't even represent the iPhone 5 in any form whatsoever. People have read the word 'Apple' & taken the chance to slur the company for everything it's ever done.

This topic was, and still IS for discussing said newly announced iDevice, not for making absolutely absurd comparisons to things that aren't in any way, shape or form, connected to the Kenote!

Ach!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The bottom line is Apple have released what is likely to be another excellent phone - with some functional updates that should increase the practicality of it for many people (bar the new connector). The fact that it is not much different from the previous model does not negate the useful updates.

Do you work in their marketing department?

I wish, I'd be so good at making things sound far better than they really are!

...and I'd be extremely wealthy

 

[RustyRider]

Well, I've pretty much skimmed through most of this topic, rolling my eyes and the such! I've been an iPhone user since 2008 with a brief break going to a Sony Ericsson...withing six months I was back to the iPhone 4, they are without a doubt the most user friendly phones on the market and are a joy to use! I even had a demolished screen for around 18 months with no issues whatsoever with the internals as shown in th video several pages back.

Working in a pub i regularly see older customers connecting their iPhones/iPads up to our free wifi, it just shows how well made the software is, if it ain't broke don't fix it!

I'll admit the i5 is slightly underwhelming, but the screen is perfectly sized to my liking. My best mate has an s3, yes the screen quality is unreal in HD it's just too big, has anyone tried using either the s3 or note with one hand? You end up stretching your thumb so far across, your palm presses the bottom of the screen, navigating elsewhere!

It may not be groundbreaking, bigger, faster and be able to torrent music but I can guarantee you now, it'll be well designed, be a pleasure to hold in your hand and be a joy to use!

Call me a fanboy all you want but I've been buying apple products since the iPod mini, and will continue to buy their products for many years to come, nothing comes close to the quality and feel, plus their customer service is secone to none. I took my 4s to the apple store in Bristol last weekend as it had a hairline crack in the back by the camera, no questions asked they grabbed a new phone from the back and transferred everything across. They also told me they will replace a phone with any hardware problem in the first year of use...

 

[Craig]

I was planning on going through a massive Android/Apple discussion, but I'll just post a few quick views . Ultimately, everyone finds a phone which you yourself prefer for your own needs. I've had both Android and Apple phones over the years as well as *gulp* Symbian. Now that Android has developed into what has become a more mature and stable phone OS, it's far better for me personally than the iPhone and I've made the switch to a Galaxy S3. That said, I still admire the iPhone massively, and there's still the odd bit that I miss from it, especially thanks to owning a Mac and iPad. I prefer the customisation options of an Android handset to an iPhone, but for some that can be cumbersome - and it's here where an iPhone can excel. Some may berate the iPhone for being limited in what can be done in terms of customisation, but for many this can be a huge benefit. I could spend hours setting up my Android phone exactly as I want, whereas other really don't want to and can see the endless options as a tad daunting. The iPhone has got a little too fragile for me too, I chuck my phones about and the chips and scratches in the screen annoyed me. Yes, I know I could of got a screen protector but they wind me up too .

So anyway, onto Apple's announcement this week. I might not have an iPhone anymore, but I chop and change phones like a madman. Thanks to working in the industry, the newest stuff always interests me, and more often than not if something amazes me I'll end up changing to it. With the iPhone 5, I won't - and there's a few reasons why:

NFC
I'm massively surprised by the omission of NFC. Sure the technology may not have taken off massively here yet, but its certainly getting there. All but a couple of major banks have now started issuing contactless cards, and there's quite a few retailers who have NFC compatible readers installed (McDonalds, Starbucks etc). I even spotted them at Thorpe Park last time I was there. Orange (sorry!) have Quicktap along with a large relaunch and push of the service going on in recent weeks. Elsewhere, Visa are prepping the launch of their own service, and o2, Vodafone and Everything Everywhere/EE have been given the go ahead to launch their own joint venture into NFC payments and promotional services. Samsung, Blackberry and Sony have all launched handsets with the technology in them, so why Apple haven't bothered is mind boggling!

Design
Aside from a slight change, there's nothing groundbreaking about the new design. I personally found the 4/4S a little annoying to hold thanks to it's square shape and the glass made it feel a little too fragile. Away from that though, back in the day Apple's devices used to excite and surprise. It all just appears to feel a little stagnant now. I know some will say "if it ain't broke....." or some may say "what else could they do?" and yes, I don't know what they could do. But then again, I'm not a designer. Back in the days of the click wheel iPod, some called it perfection and couldn't see how it could be improved. But we still had Apple pop up with a touchscreen device and stunning user interface a few years later. On the phone front, I used to see Apple as someone who would come up with new designs we never thought were possible. Where is the Apple who would surprise us with something others never thought of before? It's almost as if they're playing catchup.

Connections
This is one thing that annoys he hell out of me with Apple. Yet another proprietary connection? Really?! So so many phone companies have now switched to Micro USB, but we now leave the 30 pin connection and we're left with "lightning". I can understand the need for Thunderbolt on a Mac for speed, but surely that can't be justified for a phone which holds mere 16/32/64GB. Of course, there's the god awful ugly adaptor for those left with old accessories - for more cash in Apple's pockets, of course.

Sim Cards
Another major problem - the nano sim. Micro sims were eventually taken up by some of the other manufacturers and are much more widely seen now. But now Apple have decided to switch to the nano sim. Mere millimetres smaller than a micro sim, but still a totally different size rendering them incompatible with anything other than the new iPhone at present. It presents a massive headache for people such as tradesmen who perhaps use a cheap work phone then switch to their iPhone when they're not risking dropping it or damaging it on the job. Likewise, it gives me a massive headache at work when people are kicking off at not being able to do just that, or if for instance they've damaged their phone and want to use the sim in an old handset.

The extra performance improvements and the addition of LTE for those in UK is great. But considering the 4S's performance was perfectly acceptable for me, and I'm what I'd consider a power user, I don't see that as something truly groundbreaking. LTE is still something that's very much new, but many outside of major cities won't really see much benefit of that addition to the phone until around halfway through their two year contract.

I just see this week's announcement as more of what we would have expected for an "s" model than for a major revision. Like them or hate them though, you can't deny that Apple's marketing is a stunning example of how to do it. The hype the iPhone gets every time a revision comes along is something I don't think any manufacturer will ever match. And ultimately, this is what it boils down to - how the phone is marketed consumers. Despite the lack of distinctive and unique new features, mobile networks have had their pre order pages go into meltdown. The new model will still be a huge success, when compared to the older revisions though maybe a little down on the success of those. The decisive model will likely be their next one after the 5. Will Samsung or the other large manufacturers come out with something truly amazing in the next year to really pull people away from Apple? Or will a rather disappointing iPhone 5 and a myriad of petty patent issues cause Apple and the rest of the mobile phone industry to stagnate as it had done in 2010/2011?

 

[delta79]

I have had a look though this thread and have one thing to say

WINDOWS MOBILE

Now I have upset both sets of fanboys. I will return to my hole

 

[Scott]

I quite like the look of the Windows Mobile OS. Someone at work has one and I think it's pretty cool... However, there's a long way for it to catch up in terms of popularity and spread - as well as in terms of its app store.

Still, doesn't look like a bad thing though!

 

[Moley]

Well, Apple's decision to ditch Google Maps in iOS6 is going well...

 

[Noonie99]

I upgraded to a 5 yesterday.. probably have to wait a month for it judging by the people in New York who have been queuing for a week or something..?