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Blackpool Pleasure Beach: 2021 Discussion
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Themeparksandy1981
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Would anyone know which sections have been replaced the most on the Big One? It must be the most expensive coaster in the uk now with how much they spend on track.
djtruefitt
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I found the bit they replaced near the hotel to be awful. The joins between the old and new are really bad and really chuck you around. The bit they replaced near the end seemed fine however.
venny
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They’ve replaced significant sections of track over the years. Despite the current hysteria over any small piece of track being replaced, it’s been happening for years. The biggest difference is that it’s now much more widely publicised because people hype it up and splash it across social media.
Similarly, the perceived improvement in how these track sections ride is overblown.
Similarly, the perceived improvement in how these track sections ride is overblown.
Rick
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For a long time, they have replaced individual track sections as required (most noticeable by there being less weathering on the newer bits). They typically only replaced whole 'areas' to fundamentally change them, such as with the drop & turnaround. That approach seems to have changed a little now.
I would challenge @venny a little on the improvement front, it's being done out of necessity but the outcome is certainly a better ride. The trains are still awful but the difference is pretty noticeable on the new stretches. The ride absolutely eats wheels, I would be interested to see how it rode on a longer section of 'new' track with brand new wheels.
It's weird how the Arrow hypers all ride so differently, I recall Titan had awful vibration throughout, Desperado is (was?) pretty smooth but has very strange shaping and Magnum is somewhere in between.
I would challenge @venny a little on the improvement front, it's being done out of necessity but the outcome is certainly a better ride. The trains are still awful but the difference is pretty noticeable on the new stretches. The ride absolutely eats wheels, I would be interested to see how it rode on a longer section of 'new' track with brand new wheels.
It's weird how the Arrow hypers all ride so differently, I recall Titan had awful vibration throughout, Desperado is (was?) pretty smooth but has very strange shaping and Magnum is somewhere in between.
John
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A real effort was made with the 2020-21 retrack to improve the ride experience and reduce the stress on track and trains by altering the alignment. Most notably, the original track in the tunnel went from a tight corner (of fixed radius) to straight with no transition, the new alignment smooths the curve out slightly to avoid this. Most track work undertaken previously (at least after the Nash turnaround was done) was pretty much done on a like-for-like basis.
Skyscraper
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Depends whether they would fit the track, as an it's different to B&M's.
Dipper_Dave
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S&S offer replacements for Arrow Hypers. They were used on the now defunct Titan at Space World.
It was only after riding Shambhala & Mako that I realised how rough The Big One can be and how crap those mine train cars & bucket seats are
Dipper_Dave
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Mine actually
tayspru
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Maybe get those trains second hand if they’re lightly used for a good price ! I thought SD2000 was an arrow hyper too that’s why I first mentioned B&MS&S offer replacements for Arrow Hypers. They were used on the now defunct Titan at Space World.
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