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Busch Gardens Tampa: General Discussion

Very few have ridden it yet so we don't know, but there look to be a couple of individual moments/elements that could be better than anything on Steel Vengeance, but as has been said Iron Gwazi doesn't have the sustained length.
 
Boothy said:
Best way of convincing my girlfriend (who is vegetarian and flat out refuses to visit Sea World) to allow us to visit BGT when we visit Orlando next winter? Don't wanna miss out on Iron Gwazi!
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Surely if she doesn't like seeing fish in tanks she's not going going to like to see animals in enclosures either? o_O
 
People don't need to ride things these days to know what's good and bad. They just need to see a YouTube video :rolleyes:
 
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In short, BGT are still yet to pay RMC $3.5 million. It seems RMC are filing due to the fact they finished their work on March 14th but still haven't been fully paid.
 
$10 mil for a 200ft RMC is utterly mental. Would've guessed at least 15.

Winds you up when Merlin spunk double that on marketing gimmicks when they could potentially get the best coaster in the world for 10 mil and bring in more guests.
 
Apparently this is only for the elements of the project that RMC provided i.e. the actual coaster hardware and construction. They have no involvement in elements like marketing, infrastructure necessary to build the ride, demolition of previous structures, queue construction, theming, soundtrack... I could go on. The $10m is solely for what RMC provided to the project, and the entire project budget is ultimately far more than $10m.
 
SEAS put all payments on hold during the closure period for their parks. Similar issues to what is happening at BGT are also happening at BGW, SWO & SWSD. Texas Stingray at SWSA already opened before lockdown so one presumes that project is unaffected. Hopefully the payments will be completed and projects can progress. Iron Gwazi is the closest out of the 4 unopened coasters to being complete, I would not be surprised to see this open in summer 2020 with the other projects getting pushed back to spring 2021, possibly winter 2020 for Emperor and Ice Breaker since San Diego and Orlando are year-round parks.

It also appears that the S&S Screamin Swing that was due to open in December at BGT has been delayed, possibly to spring 2021.
 
Does this mean that the intended 2021 coasters for those parks are now coming in 2022 or getting cancelled?
 
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It also appears that the S&S Screamin Swing that was due to open in December at BGT has been delayed, possibly to spring 2021.
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I literally had no idea they were even getting one. Must have lost this news in all the coaster hype.

Not a huge fan of flat rides but screaming swings are very fun. Let's hope they still get it next year.

We are off to Florida next in 2022. Will be our first since 2012. So so so much to go on I haven't ridden.
 
Matt N said:
Does this mean that the intended 2021 coasters for those parks are now coming in 2022 or getting cancelled?
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It's all up in the air at the minute, personally I think the year-round parks may push their spring/summer 2021 projects back to winter 2021, but the seasonal parks like BGW may just delay their 2021 investment until 2022. That's my guess but I have no solid info.
 
That’s the advantage of a 365 day operating calendar, I suppose; you have almost full flexibility in this sort of situation!
 
Either RMC is struggling for cash and can’t wait or SEAS are being unfairly difficult. If it wasn’t for one of those two situations I doubt RMC would risk their relationship with a fairly big park operator.
 
If similar claims of lien are being made by other manufacturers building coasters at other SEAS parks then it does suggest that SEAS are being unfairly difficult. Though I would imagine they have some serious cash flow issues going on themselves; this has hit at a bad time for them with their current capital investment heavy strategy.
 
Seaworld/Busch may well struggle for cash flow more than some other theme park operators due to the amount of animals they have at their parks that need feeding and caring for even with no customers coming through the gates.

Perhaps they chose to keep the cash reserves they had for these expenses and have held off paying other suppliers for now.
 
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