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"Danger of Death"
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Benzin
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You complained about a fire exit sign being too bright?
I'm sure you wouldn't be complaining of the brightness if there was a fire that cut all the power out...
Certainly the other side of the 'daft H&S' argument, especially given the fire exit signs are actually legally required to be within set parameters otherwise the company are extremely liable and in trouble for it...
bluesonichd
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Yes when it shines on the screen and ruins my movie that i have paid money to see, nxt they will be leaving the lights on incase people fall over as they get up half way through the film
Tim
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Just to put my opinion into perspective I've spent years defending the need for better and clearer signs. I've seen people vaulting restricted area fences (thankfully only on low level risk rides) and heard some of the crazy excuses they've used to justify it.
But in this case I see nothing wrong with the previous signs. They got the message across perfectly well.
Telling people they may die is not necessary at any Theme Park let alone one trying to hide a recent near fatal accident. If we compare to the train station example; on a platform you are allowed to roam free near steep drops, electrified materials, fast moving trains and potentially unlocked restricted areas. In this case danger of death is very real. At a Theme Park everything is fenced off or controlled in some manner. The danger is still there but ending up in a situation of death takes real effort.
But in this case I see nothing wrong with the previous signs. They got the message across perfectly well.
Telling people they may die is not necessary at any Theme Park let alone one trying to hide a recent near fatal accident. If we compare to the train station example; on a platform you are allowed to roam free near steep drops, electrified materials, fast moving trains and potentially unlocked restricted areas. In this case danger of death is very real. At a Theme Park everything is fenced off or controlled in some manner. The danger is still there but ending up in a situation of death takes real effort.
Rick
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Any kind of warning sign acts as a warning to deter people from doing something, whether that be a road sign or whatever. It's not designed to physically stop someone from doing something. At least once or twice a season someone gets hit in a low zone somewhere. People are stupid.
Exactly.
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This is exactly what the previous signs did.
You are right. And this is EXACTLY why the signs won't have any effect. People don't care about these signs. How often have you seen someone smoking around the park (not in the designated area) and that is clearly signposted, and that's certainly not good for your health.
Yeah but people are so thick thesedays they need this sort of obvious, in your face warning!!!!! But hey ho, plenty more scrap metal for the travellers to pinch in the winter , nice money earner for them there.
Rick
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Is this comment a joke?
Rob
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These signs do cover Alton Towers' back if something was to happen, but the previous signs warning of danger did the same. Not all warning signs need to tell you that you might die!
I will be interested to see if one of the papers do pick up on these signs. Got to admit I would have little sympathy with Towers if they did.
I will be interested to see if one of the papers do pick up on these signs. Got to admit I would have little sympathy with Towers if they did.
Rob
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Of course, they might only find out by virtue of this topic and then it'll all be your fault
Well no, it would be Alton Towers fault for putting them up in the first place. You'd expect things like this to be discussed on an Alton Towers fan site.
Matt Creek
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Yeah the signs are a litter over the top, but unfortunately with the amount of disruptive guests trying to break the rules, cause havoc and go in to forbidden territory (especially since Smiler), they aren't too surprising.
Benzin
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What IS the actual story? I know papers make stuff up to suit their angle, but what's the actual story here?
"Theme park put up signs warning people of potential death (if they enter an area with high speed vehicles)"
It's even more of a non-story than one of the Smiler victims getting given a frame with Alton Towers on it...
A lot of Helen Lovejoy in this thread...
comment. Lots of other people on here have said similar things, so don't pick mine.
if you want to say things like this, pm me.
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Jordan
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As pointed out earlier, it's unlikely that the Health and Safety Executive could have forced the park to add the signs, but has anybody considered that Merlin's insurers may have done so instead?
The use of language on the signs is interesting, in particular the threat of prosecution. I'm not a lawyer, but it would be very hard to justify a criminal prosecution if you cross a fence to get your phone back, and I don't think Merlin's legal folks really have an appetite for launching expensive and time-consuming civil proceedings either.
The use of language on the signs is interesting, in particular the threat of prosecution. I'm not a lawyer, but it would be very hard to justify a criminal prosecution if you cross a fence to get your phone back, and I don't think Merlin's legal folks really have an appetite for launching expensive and time-consuming civil proceedings either.