yes, it feels so strange currently there is so much theming still there but you just have some starwars posters lazily thown into places and some lights on the ride they hope it works, it would be so much better if they returned it to its origional theming.
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Disneyland Paris: General Discussion
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SuperMuscleMan
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Looks like the new Tales of Magic show is already starting to die. Projector fail!
DistortAMG
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Ah nevermind, it's Disney, it will be fixed almost instantly I'm sure.
"ah so thats what that HDMI cable did"
SuperMuscleMan
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Said Disco Yeti!
Llama
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*ahem* Disco Yeti was an extremely ambitious animatronic that unfortunately did not pan out. The strain on the ride infrastructure and the mountain's general support structure was too great with the animatronic operational and due to the interconnected nature of construction it would effectively require a rebuild of the entire thing to get up and running again, which is not happening for obvious reasons. Similar to the falling rocks effect in the Temple of the Forbidden eye this was a case of the Imagineers being a little too ambitious with their plans. Which, of course, we generally want to encourage as most of the time it works out.
A single projector malfunction is unfortunate to be sure but not the kind of thing Disney will leave around for long. Though if they were to leave it out of commission at any of their parks, it would probably be Paris
A single projector malfunction is unfortunate to be sure but not the kind of thing Disney will leave around for long. Though if they were to leave it out of commission at any of their parks, it would probably be Paris
SuperMuscleMan
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It was ment as a joke. But yes I expect as this is the in thing and only thing that have got to market this year then it should be fixed quickly. I mean one day after 30 years we will get a completely new ride one hopes!*ahem* Disco Yeti was an extremely ambitious animatronic that unfortunately did not pan out. The strain on the ride infrastructure and the mountain's general support structure was too great with the animatronic operational and due to the interconnected nature of construction it would effectively require a rebuild of the entire thing to get up and running again, which is not happening for obvious reasons. Similar to the falling rocks effect in the Temple of the Forbidden eye this was a case of the Imagineers being a little too ambitious with their plans. Which, of course, we generally want to encourage as most of the time it works out.
A single projector malfunction is unfortunate to be sure but not the kind of thing Disney will leave around for long. Though if they were to leave it out of commission at any of their parks, it would probably be Paris
DLP have in the past had a bad attitude of letting things rot then spending months doing a big refurb so that's why I'm always a pessimistic when it comes to maintenance... How longs the pirate ship been out of action now?
In another update They have put the most ugly fake paddling pool planters back in main street. I hoped they were burnt at the end of last season, but alas they and the green street lamps are back... Why?
Llama
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Don't worry, I was halfway joking as well And to your point, the park in Paris has certainly let its standards dip below what would normally be considered "Disney quality" many, many times in the past. That post you shared is a great example of the difference in attitudes between Disneyland/Walt Disney World social media users, who post things like "Wow, incredible new food offerings for this year's festival!" and users who mainly post about Disneyland Paris where the comments on changes at the resort are more along the lines of "please. release me from this prison. I cannot go on like this any longer"
And to your point, the park in Paris has certainly let its standards dip below what would normally be considered "Disney quality" many, many times in the past. That post you shared is a great example of the difference in attitudes between Disneyland/Walt Disney World social media users, who post things like "Wow, incredible new food offerings for this year's festival!" and users who mainly post about Disneyland Paris where the comments on changes at the resort are more along the lines of "please. release me from this prison. I cannot go on like this any longer"
Bowser
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Two of them next year!
SuperMuscleMan
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Not in the main castle park. Remember not everyone buys a 2 park pass. I certainly don't now I'm not a annual pass holder... RIP Eurostar Ashford/Ebbsfleet international.
Bowser
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Ah. Do they have space to build anything in the main park?
Plastic Person
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Yes, plenty. The original park has seen no investment in ride hardware for twenty years. Completely unprecedented within the Disney chain, although they never built a park elsewhere needing quite as much of an immediate overhaul as Disney Studios.
I think they have quite a bit of space, but the movie park needs a ton of work.
If I recall correctly they have an agreement with the french government to build 3 themeparks in total each spaced out (I recall reading recently they delayed the date the 3rd park had to be built by)
The problem was that the first park was not attended well (It is an amazing park really well themed, and IMO appart from the later additions (starwars, Indi) it is the best disney park, but apparently was too american for european audiences so failed badly)
So when they had to build the seccond park they did it as cheaply and quickly as they could with very little themeing, which is why it the parks are so differnt. leaving studios in a wierd place where it essentially needs to be destroyed and rebuilt to make it actually have some quality, hint why crushes coaster is probably one of the cheapest rides they could get, and areosmith is also just a ride in a dark building.
jon81uk
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I don't think attendance was that bad, the bigger issue is they built far too much hotel capacity so they never attracted as many guests to stay as first wanted/expected. With Paris only a short train ride away many people travelled into the park for the day.
But yes the studios park was done quickly to satisfy the clause with the French goverment that a new park was needed ten years later. This is why the clause of needing a third park 20 years later is being pushed back again and again. I expect if they hadn't originally committed to the government then they would have expanded the main park first and the second park would have been done now (so 20-25 years on) instead of ten years.
California Adventure although not quite as bad as Studios Paris, has also had major overhauls.
Bowser
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I wonder how things would have panned out in an alternate time line and it was built in the UK or Spain.
This is crazy really isn't it. And yet the park remains incredibly popular. Such a different business model to virtually any other park.
This is crazy really isn't it. And yet the park remains incredibly popular. Such a different business model to virtually any other park.
in comparison to a normal park I think attendance was actually quite good, but I think disney were expecting and budgeted for the numbers they see at disneyland and WDW which didn't happen.
I would guess if in the UK it would have been better, depending on the location as if they were able to get it close to london on the train then it could have attracted the people in london, and forgen tourists visiting london.
it also works since most places it is relitivly easy to travel to london, there is a large market in the UK for disney paks, and they make up a large part of the sales for WDW during the summer.
I wonder if some of the disney exccs saw that paris wasn't too far from the UK, germany, spain etc and compared it to how far it would be in america and thought it was a small/reasonable distance to travel for most countries (in america they will happily drive for like 10 hours to get some where, but here we drive much less) but they didn't realise that europe don't drive as much
Benzin
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There were at least 2/3 spots in the main park earmarked for future developments. Area behind Discoveryland/Fantasyland, the field by Indiana Jones and bottom end of Frontierland.
No idea why they won't put stuff in. Beauty & The Beast clone, Indy dark ride clone and Splash clone would've been perfect.
No idea why they won't put stuff in. Beauty & The Beast clone, Indy dark ride clone and Splash clone would've been perfect.
Bowser
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I suppose Disney rides tend to cost many tens or even hundreds of millions and perhaps they don't feel the need when they have another park that needs so much work. Perhaps something planned once the Studios Park work is finished in a few years. Though as mentioned above it sounds like they have the third park threat hanging over them which i find quite odd. What's the benefit of holding them to a deal that essentially benefits nobody? Yes you'd have the temporary economic boost of construction but once it's finished, if it remains financially unviable for Disney then it's going to do more harm than good.
I wonder what the parameters of the third park are? Could they build an indoor water park? Or would that clash with the Center Parcs affiliation?
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The next park has to be built i believe by 2032 or they have to sell the land. It depends on visitor numbers and can be pushed back if they hit a certain figure.
The main park has multiple expansion areas including ones in the middle of fantasy land! I believe 1 in frontier land, (a huge one) a bigger one behind indie, 2 in fantasy and 2 in discovery. What's crazy is the area behind star tours used to be open as pizza planet so yes tones of space. I feel after lion king we shall see eyes turn to a coaster Tron style but for star wars in the area beside star tours and over the old buzz area.
The main park has multiple expansion areas including ones in the middle of fantasy land! I believe 1 in frontier land, (a huge one) a bigger one behind indie, 2 in fantasy and 2 in discovery. What's crazy is the area behind star tours used to be open as pizza planet so yes tones of space. I feel after lion king we shall see eyes turn to a coaster Tron style but for star wars in the area beside star tours and over the old buzz area.
I would love to see a tron style ride themed to starwars, if it means they retheme space mountain back to the origional theming and then make a new area with star tours just for starwars land (either behind the current tomorrow land, or in another area)