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Efteling: General Discussion

Carnaval almost never has a queue at least so it's somewhat moot. Dreamflight is a bit bare but the general area still feels themed. Do agree on the actual station.

These are both rides that are 30+ years old too. Everything notable from the past 20 years that i can think of has a good queue. And again, they're typically short and/or regularly moving so far more tolerable than a shipping container cattle pen. Even the 4D cinema has two great queueing areas.

When a park is as lovely as Efteling all that's left is to nitpick the imperfections!

Presumably Danse Macabre will have something interesting on that front.
 
Lovely looking queue line (as to be expected):

The theming does seem to 'pop' thanks to that lighting. Judging from the photos, it really does look very good at every level.
 
Here you go:
That is actually incredible. As a certified green lighting hater, I approve of this. Purple gives it a nice wash while the colours of the paint shine through too.


From: https://youtu.be/AFFybYCMZjA?si=q9KgHNH7HJczYlXL


Have we mentioned this yet? This advert is selling it short. I like how the pianists head whips around, that’s really cool.

Also, what’s with advertisements for ‘scary’ rides and the restraints locking down/ being trapped in them? Am I making this up?
 
I know they did the whole Kate Bush thing, but I'm surprised Epica got the nod.

Though just checking they are Dutch so it makes perfect sense.

One day Nightwish will do an official theme park soundtrack collab.
 
Dreamflight also has the weird station area. Given how well themed the interior is it's an incredibly stark contrast in quality.
Dreamflight's station always reminds me of a British shopping centre in the 1980s – all cream surfaces and neatly arranged plastic flowerbeds. It's wonderfully dated and incongruous with the ride itself, but I don't dislike it somehow.
That is what makes it more concerning the current state of affairs! If anything, because every penny is reinvested, Efteling should be the best-presented, greatest park in the world, as every penny is going back into the park and there is no profits being stripped away. Not everything has to have money in mind, but things can happen just because they add to the park experience.
My understanding is that it's owned and run by the Dutch national parks service, which is itself owned by the government. I don't know the exact details, but rather than "every penny" being reinvested in the park, I assume they use some of Efteling's profits to cross-subsidise their regular parks and green spaces. Which is how it should be, as long as enough is being reinvested into Efteling (which, as I've said above, I don't think it currently is).
We're going to Disneyland Paris next year for the first time so it will be interesting to see how some of these aspects compare. I appreciate your criticism is very constructive as opposed to slating Efteling but it did tug at my heartstrings to read it all the same.
I'm sorry – I didn't mean to upset you!

Something that the reaction to my initial post has revealed to me is that the sense of connection people feel with this park is even stronger than I'd previously thought. People are very, very invested in the place. Don't get me wrong – I truly love Efteling as well. It's easily in my top ten favourite parks (and I've been to a fair few theme parks!)

I thought it was interesting that most of the reactions to my post picked up on the idea of everything looking the same (and there were some very good points in response to this), but less so the idea that there is a strange lack of excitement in the ride lineup. Musing on it a bit more, I think I've really settled on where the problem lies: it's the lack of peril in the dark rides.

Fata Morgana: a foreboding atmosphere at points, but no moments of peril (or any actual storyline) to speak of
Dreamflight: no moments of peril, or storyline
Symbolica: no moments of peril (unless you count the whale causing a crack in the ceiling), or any storyline
Carnival Festival: no peril or plot whatsoever (but, admittedly, neither does the ride that it's ripping off)
Villa Volta: maybe the only dark ride with some peril? At least, being a non-Dutch speaker I assume the room starts spinning round because something has gone amiss
Danse Macabre: remains to be seen, but some promising signs

This is unusual, compared to other theme parks. 'It's a Small World' (which Carnival Festival is an obvious rip of) stands out because it's virtually the only dark ride in any Disney park without any peril. In fact, that's why a lot of people find it boring. It's hardwired into Disney's DNA that proper storytelling – whether for a family ride or for a balls-to-the-wall thrill attraction – requires some peril. It's storytelling 101.

I adore Efteling, and will continue to love it in spite of this, but this is the park's Achille's heel.
 
It is basically the opposite of the Merlin way of all the dark themes. Can't have all one or all the other without it being a bit off as such?
 
It is basically the opposite of the Merlin way of all the dark themes. Can't have all one or all the other without it being a bit off as such?
That's a point you're not at a Merlin Park without being ate by something, falling through something or captured by someone.

After just coming back from Efteling I do agree with Sam's point of it is all very nicey nice. Which is fine and a lovely change from our parks of doom and gloom but it would also be nice to have a bit of tension as well, just finished to their high standards too. Which hopefully Danse Macabre provides a little of. I think suspense is what we're after.
 
That's a point you're not at a Merlin Park without being ate by something, falling through something or captured by someone.

After just coming back from Efteling I do agree with Sam's point of it is all very nicey nice. Which is fine and a lovely change from our parks of doom and gloom but it would also be nice to have a bit of tension as well, just finished to their high standards too. Which hopefully Danse Macabre provides a little of. I think suspense is what we're after.

Isn’t Baron like that? You’re sent down a haunted mine and chased by ghosts. Plus the physical suspense of the ride itself.

Arguably Flying Dutchman too, again in both story and the surprise elements of the ride is a darker experience.
 
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