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General Queue Times Discussion 2023

I think everyone knows that throughput is what determines how popular a ride is. No one has ever argued against it. Some on hear try to claim that Smiler isn't that popular as its throughput isn't great, but that just isn't true. The throughput isn't that bad, it's not far behind some of the other coasters. It's popular and claiming its not is just bizarre. So how we really judge popularity is throughput and the queue time together. Smiler will get through more riders in 70 mins than Wicker man in 60 for example. So sometimes the queue time does determine how popular the ride is
 
Not so sure on that one? Your throughput should be the same hour on hour, there or thereabouts. A ride's popularity in my opinion is determined by the queue length, how many people are waiting in it. I'll use Nemesis and The Smiler as examples. If they both have the exact same amount of people in the queue, we all know Nemesis is getting through it probably twice as fast because the throughput is higher. Now if you see that The Smiler has a queue time of an hour more than that, even if the exact same amount of people are stood in the queue, that means your throughput is not determining how popular a ride is, as in theory, it should be the same hour on hour if running at maximum capacity. It also means your queue time is not giving you an accurate representation of popularity either.
 
Danscott22 said:
Not so sure on that one? Your throughput should be the same hour on hour, there or thereabouts. A ride's popularity in my opinion is determined by the queue length, how many people are waiting in it. I'll use Nemesis and The Smiler as examples. If they both have the exact same amount of people in the queue, we all know Nemesis is getting through it probably twice as fast because the throughput is higher. Now if you see that The Smiler has a queue time of an hour more than that, even if the exact same amount of people are stood in the queue, that means your throughput is not determining how popular a ride is, as in theory, it should be the same hour on hour if running at maximum capacity. It also means your queue time is not giving you an accurate representation of popularity either.
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Nemesis could clear it's entire queue in 70 mins. Yet the queue said 50-60 a lot last year when it was only at the lift hill. The queue time for it is always overstated so it's impossible to accurately tell how popular it is. So yes if the queue for Nemesis and Smiler are both an hour Nemesis is more popular however it depend on how long the queue actually takes and therefore how many people are in the queue. If Nemesis says 60, it's more like 30 most the time. Smiler is more likely to be accurate
 
This is all a bit of a bizarre and flawed way to measure popularity. Ignoring all of the subtleties of throughput etc, queue times vary throughout the day as crowds shift around the park. That doesn't mean any given rides popularity is growing or waning as the day goes on, people generally just make their way around the park and try to hit as many rides as possible.
People aren't only queuing for their favourite ride and not everyone ends up enjoying every ride they queue for.
The only real way to guage the popularity of the rides is to poll everyone on park over a period of time, and they did that back in 2011 as has been mentioned...
 
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Sambiasso said:
We went Friday, awful day probably the worse experience at a theme park.

Left at 2pm and unlikely we'll return this season.
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We used to go every year. We have to get a flight as we're from Northern Ireland, hire a car etc etc and we've found it's just not worth it anymore.

Didn't go last year and we're doing Energylandia this year instead.

Went to Tayto Park today (now called Emerald Park). Arrived at 10:15 and left at 15:00. Got their gravity group woody done 10 times and some of their smaller rides too. Went home happy and content that we'd got our money's worth.
 
Skyscraper said:
According to queuetimes.com, Alty Mans has opened for a grand total of 15 minutes so far today. Opened at 10:05 and closed at 10:20.
Slightly better than last weekend you could argue mind, given it didn't open til around 10:45 on the 18th.
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"Ally Manns" sounds like the name of Lady Gaga's character in "A star is born".....
 
Galactica seems to be struggling even more on reduced capacity this year without the help of Nemesis. Think its one to avoid unless it's on 3 trains tbh
 
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