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Incident on The Smiler 02/06/2015

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Discussion is going a bit off topic here...The Smiler crash has lead to discussion about Baco's roughness. Fairly sure that should have it's own name paralleling Godwin's Law ;)
 
josht said:
Has anyone seen the HSE report yet ??
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Unless they release an interim report, I think this will be a long time coming, as in months.

The only references I can find on the HSE website are shortly after the incident.

Eg:

Http://press.hse.gov.uk/2015/statement-hses--investigation-into-the-incident-at-alton-towers/

There is also an article entitled executive statement update on the incident at Alton towers but when I paste the URL my spell checker insists on changing it to nonsense.

This second article from 05th July makes it clear whose decision it was to reopen the park.

Hope this helps.
 
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josht said:
Has anyone seen the HSE report yet ??
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You won't see another report now until legal proceedings have concluded, because anything released could potentially be prejudicial to any trial that might take place. The only time I have known an interim report be published in recent years was for the Buncefield explosion where important scientific knowledge about the nature of the explosion needed to be disseminated quickly to industry, because prosecutions can take years to get to court.

Normally if there is some generic issue that the HSE wants to get a message out, they will issue a Safety Bulletin, but without referring specifically to the accident that might have triggered the bulletin.

Even after all prosecutions have been completed, I doubt that a special report will be published. But the HSE internal report will be disclosable under Freedom of Information, and that is what will probably end up in the public domain. But again, that will only be releaseed after all legal proceedings are completed.

One clue of what might have caused the accident is if an improvement notice has been issued by the HSE to Merlin, which should appear on the HSE website in a few weeks time. But I haven't heard of any other notices being issued other than the original prohibition notice.
 
If the smiler did close (not that I'm saying it will) what would be the fate of saw? I'd assume they'd close that too.
 
It would stay open. If Saw had to close then surely every single Gerstlauer eurofighter/infinity coaster would have to close aswell?
 
I cant see any good reason for it closing unless there is a serious techical fault thats non resolvable. But that would meen other same coasters would also have the same fault and would be forced to close too. Its not gonna happen IMO
 
bluesonichd said:
I cant see any good reason for it closing unless there is a serious techical fault thats non resolvable. But that would meen other same coasters would also have the same fault and would be forced to close too. Its not gonna happen IMO
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That's what I thought. Tbh I thought saw would be back open by now
 
I'd have thought they want to wait until the investigation has progressed and they can be absolutely certain that the issue is not also present on Saw. Without knowing the exact cause of this crash, they can't yet know for certain.
 
Leah said:
Never been on saw. Is it similar to the smiler? Doesn't look it. Is it any good?
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Its the same carriage wise but the track is different, much less inversions, bigger inside section, theming based on the saw films. Last time I went we were getting straight back on it as it ended because there was no queue :)
 
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