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Recent Problems In Ukraine.

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Not quite yet.

At the moment, the West has no choice but to stay out of this. All it can do for now is threaten Russia with economic sanctions, accept Georgia as a NATO member and build up military hardware around the Ukraine. No doubt this will really p**s off the Russians!

I heard this afternoon Russia has issued an ultimatium to surrender by 3pm or else, which will be interesting as I dont see the Ukraine surrending. Ive also seen reports that Poland is moving its military to the border of the Ukraine.

Personally, I see this turning out like another Cold War. Russia and China on one side, the West on the other, war of words, threats, economic sanctions, threats of war etc but not coming to any blows, well, not military ones anyway.

Of course I could be wrong - if the USA and UK honour the Budapest treaty from erm, 1994 I believe where they said they would go in and protect the Ukraine from invasion then things could turn a bit Pete Tong.

Until such time I think we will make it to the opening day for Alton :eek:)
 
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It might be the end of the world but looking on the bright side if Putin is determined to chuck everything he has at those crazy plucky Ukranianianians at least there'll be a few less ignorant Russians spoiling my stay at the Portaventura hotel in June. ;D
 
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Russia is still in fact a communist dictatorship ruled by a modern psychopath.
 
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I wouldn't say Russia is communist anymore. If anything it's a right wing dictatorship.
 
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I don't really think any 'communist' country would ever have been approved of by Marx himself (with the exception of Cuba perhaps), but I meant that generally it is as corrupt and suppressive as it ever was during the USSR years.
 
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Pedantry corner: there is no such country as 'The Ukraine'. :)

The Guardian Style Guide said:
Ukraine
no "the"; adjective Ukrainian
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The BBC said:
"The Ukraine" is incorrect both grammatically and politically, says Oksana Kyzyma of the Embassy of Ukraine in London.

"Ukraine is both the conventional short and long name of the country," she says. "This name is stated in the Ukrainian Declaration of Independence and Constitution."

The use of the article relates to the time before independence in 1991, when Ukraine was a republic of the Soviet Union known as the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, she says. Since then, it should be merely Ukraine.
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Don't start Russia I don't want to do national service in world war 3 I'm to fat
 
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josht said:
Don't start Russia I don't want to do national service in world war 3 I'm to fat
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Thank god I have flat feet, asthma, dyspraxia, and MHFA
 
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I hardley think we need worry about conscription. Even IF a "world war" did kick off, there would be no need for troops.
 
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Can you imagine the queue at the doctors if it ever did come to the potential of civilians being called up for active duty these days?
 
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I agree though, there wont be any need for troops - the whole thing would be a nuclear stand-off, like the cold war.

(Team edit: Please stay on topic :))
 
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Things seem to be getting worse.

The US has now assured Polands security as they are worried about The Russians pushing through Ukraine and threatening their boarders.

http://www.thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/163900,Ukraine-crisis-Poland-safe-says-president

Also Polands Prime Minister has said that we should not appease Russia as appeasement buys a little more time.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/02/us-ukraine-crisis-poland-idUSBREA210KY20140302




Goodnight and good luck.
 
Of course they will protect Poland - if Russia did try and go into Poland which is a NATO member, then yeah, WW3 would break out no doubt about that - and so be it too, Russia shouldnt try and take over other countries..... though we are a fine lot to say that arent we. Iraq, Afghanistan, and Isreal taking over land, yet that all seems to be ok!
 
Just going to step in here before it gets out of hand. Stay on topic please :)

I don't see the need for Russia to step in here just as things seemed to be getting back on some sort of track and I certainly hope that we don't get dragged into this. If there's a war, I really hope it stays away from our shores, however cowardly that may seem. :p
 
I'm actually sorta worried about this situation escalating into a war tbh. Putin's invasion of Crimea seems very similar to Hitler's invasion of Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia just before WW2 kicked off, both using the excuse of protecting the German/Russian nationals living in a certain region of the country.

I don't want a war, doubt anyone really does, but I do think Putin needs to be stopped , just like Hitler should've been instead of letting him get away with it, which then lead to him thinking he could do the same with Poland.
 
Forgive me asking, but not sure how the previous posts were going off the topic? They seem to be discussing the situation in Ukraine, Russia and the surrounding countries which may be affected.

Anyway - in today's news, Crimea have asked to be part of Russia again. Wonder what the West will do if they do decide to re take Crimea from Ukraine, which in effect, would be an invasion....
 
Adam said:
I'm actually sorta worried about this situation escalating into a war tbh. Putin's invasion of Crimea seems very similar to Hitler's invasion of Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia just before WW2 kicked off, both using the excuse of protecting the German/Russian nationals living in a certain region of the country.
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I can definitely see the parallels between this and the Sudetenland Crisis. It's eerily similar, in fact. Both are/were almost enclaves of separate ethnic groups in neighbouring countries, in both cases the leader of the aggressor proclaims to only be interested in the enclave.

The difference at the present, of course, is that Hitler invaded the whole of Czechoslovakia 6 months after he took only the German-speaking area. Let's hope Putin doesn't think similarly.
 
Russia did this at the start of the second world war and claimed that they were protecting Russian people and interests, but they were just settling old grudges with other countries, namely Poland.
 
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