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Recent Problems In Ukraine.
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Re: Recent Problems In The Ukraine.
Not quite yet.
At the moment, the West has no choice but to stay out of this. All it can do for now is threaten Russia with economic sanctions, accept Georgia as a NATO member and build up military hardware around the Ukraine. No doubt this will really p**s off the Russians!
I heard this afternoon Russia has issued an ultimatium to surrender by 3pm or else, which will be interesting as I dont see the Ukraine surrending. Ive also seen reports that Poland is moving its military to the border of the Ukraine.
Personally, I see this turning out like another Cold War. Russia and China on one side, the West on the other, war of words, threats, economic sanctions, threats of war etc but not coming to any blows, well, not military ones anyway.
Of course I could be wrong - if the USA and UK honour the Budapest treaty from erm, 1994 I believe where they said they would go in and protect the Ukraine from invasion then things could turn a bit Pete Tong.
Until such time I think we will make it to the opening day for Alton
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Not quite yet.
At the moment, the West has no choice but to stay out of this. All it can do for now is threaten Russia with economic sanctions, accept Georgia as a NATO member and build up military hardware around the Ukraine. No doubt this will really p**s off the Russians!
I heard this afternoon Russia has issued an ultimatium to surrender by 3pm or else, which will be interesting as I dont see the Ukraine surrending. Ive also seen reports that Poland is moving its military to the border of the Ukraine.
Personally, I see this turning out like another Cold War. Russia and China on one side, the West on the other, war of words, threats, economic sanctions, threats of war etc but not coming to any blows, well, not military ones anyway.
Of course I could be wrong - if the USA and UK honour the Budapest treaty from erm, 1994 I believe where they said they would go in and protect the Ukraine from invasion then things could turn a bit Pete Tong.
Until such time I think we will make it to the opening day for Alton
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Re: Recent Problems In The Ukraine.
It might be the end of the world but looking on the bright side if Putin is determined to chuck everything he has at those crazy plucky Ukranianianians at least there'll be a few less ignorant Russians spoiling my stay at the Portaventura hotel in June. ;D
It might be the end of the world but looking on the bright side if Putin is determined to chuck everything he has at those crazy plucky Ukranianianians at least there'll be a few less ignorant Russians spoiling my stay at the Portaventura hotel in June. ;D
Jem8472
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Re: Recent Problems In The Ukraine.
Things seem to be getting worse.
The US has now assured Polands security as they are worried about The Russians pushing through Ukraine and threatening their boarders.
http://www.thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/163900,Ukraine-crisis-Poland-safe-says-president
Also Polands Prime Minister has said that we should not appease Russia as appeasement buys a little more time.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/02/us-ukraine-crisis-poland-idUSBREA210KY20140302
Goodnight and good luck.
Things seem to be getting worse.
The US has now assured Polands security as they are worried about The Russians pushing through Ukraine and threatening their boarders.
http://www.thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/163900,Ukraine-crisis-Poland-safe-says-president
Also Polands Prime Minister has said that we should not appease Russia as appeasement buys a little more time.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/02/us-ukraine-crisis-poland-idUSBREA210KY20140302
Goodnight and good luck.
Of course they will protect Poland - if Russia did try and go into Poland which is a NATO member, then yeah, WW3 would break out no doubt about that - and so be it too, Russia shouldnt try and take over other countries..... though we are a fine lot to say that arent we. Iraq, Afghanistan, and Isreal taking over land, yet that all seems to be ok!
Andrew
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Just going to step in here before it gets out of hand. Stay on topic please
I don't see the need for Russia to step in here just as things seemed to be getting back on some sort of track and I certainly hope that we don't get dragged into this. If there's a war, I really hope it stays away from our shores, however cowardly that may seem.
I don't see the need for Russia to step in here just as things seemed to be getting back on some sort of track and I certainly hope that we don't get dragged into this. If there's a war, I really hope it stays away from our shores, however cowardly that may seem.
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I'm actually sorta worried about this situation escalating into a war tbh. Putin's invasion of Crimea seems very similar to Hitler's invasion of Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia just before WW2 kicked off, both using the excuse of protecting the German/Russian nationals living in a certain region of the country.
I don't want a war, doubt anyone really does, but I do think Putin needs to be stopped , just like Hitler should've been instead of letting him get away with it, which then lead to him thinking he could do the same with Poland.
I don't want a war, doubt anyone really does, but I do think Putin needs to be stopped , just like Hitler should've been instead of letting him get away with it, which then lead to him thinking he could do the same with Poland.
Forgive me asking, but not sure how the previous posts were going off the topic? They seem to be discussing the situation in Ukraine, Russia and the surrounding countries which may be affected.
Anyway - in today's news, Crimea have asked to be part of Russia again. Wonder what the West will do if they do decide to re take Crimea from Ukraine, which in effect, would be an invasion....
Anyway - in today's news, Crimea have asked to be part of Russia again. Wonder what the West will do if they do decide to re take Crimea from Ukraine, which in effect, would be an invasion....
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Adam said:
I can definitely see the parallels between this and the Sudetenland Crisis. It's eerily similar, in fact. Both are/were almost enclaves of separate ethnic groups in neighbouring countries, in both cases the leader of the aggressor proclaims to only be interested in the enclave.
The difference at the present, of course, is that Hitler invaded the whole of Czechoslovakia 6 months after he took only the German-speaking area. Let's hope Putin doesn't think similarly.