That's two different statements, I think it will last a while and I don't see what will bring it to said end.
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Russia vs NATO
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Skyscraper
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Is anyone else feeling really nervous about this? They've captured Europe's largest nuclear power plant, and there are fears of a Chernobyl 2.0. 
Dave
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Is anyone else feeling really nervous about this? They've captured Europe's largest nuclear power plant, and there are fears of a Chernobyl 2.0.
Despite scare stories it’s really hard to make a nuclear power plant explode. And the Russians use a lot of nuclear power so they know how to handle them.
This to me clearly demonstrates Putin’s mindset and his lack of any care when it comes to life. Anyone who thinks he wouldn’t use nuclear weapons is just simply deluded. Even the experts and people who have been close to him now acknowledge that he would. Hoping that NATO does not implement a no fly zone from todays events as that will kick things off big time. They might now given the risk of a nuclear power plant exploding is just as big as a nuclear strike on a member state.
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Both the Russian military on the ground and the staff that run the plant will want stable reactors, as they all know the devastation of nuclear materials in the environment.Is anyone else feeling really nervous about this? They've captured Europe's largest nuclear power plant, and there are fears of a Chernobyl 2.0.
There will be one of 2 things happening.
1) the staff will carry on with normal operations and the Russian troops leaves them to keep it running.
2) Russian military have taken Nuclear power station operators with them and replaced staff with Russian staff.
I think number 1 is the more likely option.
The one thing that does worry me is accident hit by ordinance destined for somewhere else or a aircraft being downed onto the facility.
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He’s not doing a great job at not destroying it though, is he
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Stuff can be rebuilt though. A Nuclear incident cannot be undone.He’s not doing a great job at not destroying it though, is he
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To be clear I'm not seeking to validate his strategy at all, it's appalling. What I'm saying is that making Ukraine unfit for human habitation does not fit with any of the narrative both from the Kremlin and from we know is happening.
Just breaking in Sky News and as I have feared that the sanctions will push him over the edge :
In comments on state television, Mr Putin said Russia wanted Ukraine to be "demilitarised", adding that the country should have a neutral status.
Further details also now here:
If Putin feels this a declaration of war against Russia god knows where this will end up.
Putin: Western sanctions akin to declaration of war
Vladimir Putin has warned that Western sanctions on Russia are akin to a declaration of war, as he defended his invasion of Ukraine.In comments on state television, Mr Putin said Russia wanted Ukraine to be "demilitarised", adding that the country should have a neutral status.
Further details also now here:
If Putin feels this a declaration of war against Russia god knows where this will end up.
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Dave
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He’s been saying that from the start, you do have a habit of selectively reading news sources to confirm your own bias.Just breaking in Sky News and as I have feared that the sanctions will push him over the edge :
Putin: Western sanctions akin to declaration of war
Vladimir Putin has warned that Western sanctions on Russia are akin to a declaration of war, as he defended his invasion of Ukraine.
In comments on state television, Mr Putin said Russia wanted Ukraine to be "demilitarised", adding that the country should have a neutral status.
Further details also now here:
If Putin feels this a declaration of war against Russia god knows where this will end up.
Putin is dangerous, I’m not saying things couldn’t escalate but at the moment all this is rhetoric. He might be crazy but he does know that America can and will destroy him if they have to.
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Just breaking in Sky News and as I have feared that the sanctions will push him over the edge :
Putin: Western sanctions akin to declaration of war
Vladimir Putin has warned that Western sanctions on Russia are akin to a declaration of war, as he defended his invasion of Ukraine.
In comments on state television, Mr Putin said Russia wanted Ukraine to be "demilitarised", adding that the country should have a neutral status.
Further details also now here:
If Putin feels this a declaration of war against Russia god knows where this will end up.
This is a bit worrying. Next he will announce the west has declared war due to the sanctions
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Why invade Ukraine and not Latvia, Estonia or Finland in that case?
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The west know it’s a war, that’s the point. We are also arming Ukraine so we are in this. At the moment the sanctions are working better than Putins army and he knows it, he also knows that he has just exhausted 150,000 troops and spent billions, yet NATO troops are better rested and better trained. This is why he is pushing rhetoric as somewhere deep down he knows he has poorly played this and made his power base wobble.
Now a madman cornered can be a dangerous foe but they also make mistakes, he is making lots of them.
As for Ukraine he is desperate to have it, he never got over his puppet government being kicked out a few years back. He is all about ideology. Sweden isn’t hugely likely a target, Finland maybe but he has committed so much resource to Ukraine (and still has a lot of resource in Syria) that I don’t think he could mount anything against Finland at the moment:
More on why Russia activated their nuclear deterrent: (was due to Liz Truss)
Bit more content coming out about the declaration of war comment:
“These sanctions that are being imposed are akin to a declaration of war but thank God it has not come to that," Putin said, speaking to a group of women flight attendants at an Aeroflot training centre near Moscow.”
www.reuters.com
“These sanctions that are being imposed are akin to a declaration of war but thank God it has not come to that," Putin said, speaking to a group of women flight attendants at an Aeroflot training centre near Moscow.”
Putin says Western sanctions are akin to declaration of war
President Vladimir Putin said on Saturday that Western sanctions on Russia were akin to a declaration of war and warned that any attempt to impose a no-fly zone in Ukraine would lead to catastrophic consequences for the world.
www.reuters.com
