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Well, not exactly like that, since it's made by Premier. But that kind of size car. Doubt we will see that kind of lap bar though, as The Mummy doesn't invert.
 
Theres been alot of talk about the OTSR's / Lapbars..... is it actually viable to think that the Health & Safety Police would allow this kind of ride to have Lapbars?!?!?!
 
There'd be no health and safety reason not to (unless there's something crazily unique requiring OTSRs about it), I think the only potential obstacle would be that in the UK almost every inverting coaster has OTSRs, so it's a public expectation and other restraints could possibly be viewed as unsafe by the GP!
 
The press release states:

Passengers per ride train - 16 (4x rows of four)

Kind of confusing, because as far as I'm aware, a train is more than one car, yet it states four rows of four, which, to me, would suggest one car :-\ So maybe it will be two Eurofighter cars attached together?
 
Or maybe four seperate articulated rows, B&M style. After all, Eurofughter cars are two seperate rows... they are just really close together.
 
So are these trains going to be two standard eurofighters taped/glued together, one long eurofighter or will each row be separate, like a B&M floorless or sitdown?
 
Each row is separate on standard EF cars anyway.

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They aren't as spaced-out as rows on a B&M train though. But if it is two standard eurofighters stuck together...

.. oh dear. :p
 
Equinox said:
Theres been alot of talk about the OTSR's / Lapbars..... is it actually viable to think that the Health & Safety Police would allow this kind of ride to have Lapbars?!?!?!

Yes and I do wish people would stop saying that. Health and Safety don't give a damn what kind of restraints the ride has. All they want to know is will they hold you in?

Answer: Of course they will! Not only can I list many looping rides which have lap bars but let’s not forget that the very first looping coasters were built with lap bars and in their long lifespan never once caused an incident.

As much as we rag about Health & Safety in this country on the whole they are quite reasonable with any new developments. It’s only when an incident occurs that they start getting over cautious and even then we only hear about the really stupid cases.

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Glad to here it'll be 4 trains of 16 :D

EDIT: Also see my post a few pages back for my answer of what the carts will be like. To summarise I think it will be 4 rows which each articulate separately. One Euro-Fighter with 4 rows probably wouldn't be flexible enough. Two Euro-Fighters stuck together doesn't work because of the way they are designed.
 
Hello everyone, I've been lurking for a little while, but thought I'd register to make this point.

Surely we're at SW7 now not being a Euro-fighter? The press release says this is
The first of its kind in the world

That's supported by the fact that these 4x4 cars/trains aren't like any other Euro-fighter out there, and we also can't see the Euro-fighter's trademark beyond vertical drop anywhere in the plans (with the caveats that it might be in the indoor section and the outdoor section design may be significantly different from that submitted for planning).

I think we're looking at something new from Gerstlauer, albeit evolved from the DNA of their commercially successful Euro-Fighters. It would make sense that Gerstlauer have got something new, since they've been flogging Euro-Fighters for near enough a decade now.
 
The issue is that the phrase keeps changing... It's world beating on the signs, worlds first on some sites and now first of its kind. Each means something different to different people so without consistency it's hard to judge exactly what the ride will be.

My insane two rows forward and two rows back idea still fits ;) though I have 1% belief in it... Hopefully we will just see four rows of individually articulated seats with lap bars.
 
lap bars are perfectly safe... though the GP think otherwise..

see these youtube comments from a POV of Blue Fire at Europa Park...

Team Edit: Pictures contain swearing.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU1uGTqX0DM

annoyingly most comments regarding the restraints get deleted, but you can work out what they originally said by looking at the replies.
 
mrbrightside said:
My insane two rows forward and two rows back idea still fits ;) though I have 1% belief in it... Hopefully we will just see four rows of individually articulated seats with lap bars.

My shoulders are aching just at the thought of going up a vertical lift hill backwards :(
 
g0recki said:
mrbrightside said:
My insane two rows forward and two rows back idea still fits ;) though I have 1% belief in it... Hopefully we will just see four rows of individually articulated seats with lap bars.

My shoulders are aching just at the thought of going up a vertical lift hill backwards :(

Lap bars my dear Watson, lap bars!
 
Fredward said:
lap bars are perfectly safe... though the GP think otherwise..

That kind of misconception could actually work well for Alton possibly? A bit like the Swarm tearing dummies limbs off PR, which seemed to make people even crazier to ride it. Lapbars on this would certainly give Alton the ammunition to market it as the scariest thing since sliced bread.

Please please please Alton, Iron Shark style lappies!
 
That's my thought, but I was just backing up what others have said about the GP's perception with evidence...

also the team put my pictures in spoiler tags because the quotes contain swearing, you may want to edit the quote just in case! :p
 
I'm really confused by the plans now. People who said 6 months ago that the product will never differ from the plans have now made a 180 and said its definitely different

I don't know what to think!
 
But if Merlin say that the GP tell them that they're scared of woodies and that means Merlin won't build a wooden coaster at Alton Towers (or any of the UK parks so far), what's their excuse if the GP are much more openly scared about lap bars on an inverting coaster and they go and build a coaster that inverts with lap bars anyway?

Just a thought.
 
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