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- Falcon’s Flight will be the world’s tallest, fastest and longest roller coaster.
- It will travel across approximately 4km (13,123.4ft) (I assume they’re referring to a 4km track length, which would be beyond unprecedented; for reference, that’s about 61.4% longer than the current record holder, Steel Dragon 2000, which is 2.479km!)
- It will feature a “vertical cliff dive manoeuvre” into a 160m (524.9ft) deep valley using LSM technology, and will reach speeds of over 250km/h (155.3mph)
- The ride will also be the “world’s tallest free-standing coaster structure featuring a parabolic airtime hill, allowing a weightless airtime experience”.
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- Falcon’s Flight will be the world’s tallest, fastest and longest roller coaster.
- It will travel across approximately 4km (13,123.4ft) (I assume they’re referring to a 4km track length, which would be beyond unprecedented; for reference, that’s about 61.4% longer than the current record holder, Steel Dragon 2000, which is 2.479km!)
- It will feature a “vertical cliff dive manoeuvre” into a 160m (524.9ft) deep valley using LSM technology, and will reach speeds of over 250km/h (155.3mph)
- The ride will also be the “world’s tallest free-standing coaster structure featuring a parabolic airtime hill, allowing a weightless airtime experience”.
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Rick
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Saudi have today announced their new visa system, open to citizens of 49 nations, in a bid to meet their tourism objectives
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49848068
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49848068
Skyscraper
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Matt N
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It would appear that Falcon’s Flight has now begun to be designed, with Intamin being chosen to manufacture the ride: https://qiddiya.com/en/media/press-...ins-design-of-world-s-fastest-roller-coaster/
From the article, points of interest include:
From the article, points of interest include:
Pleasure Beach Valhalla
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I swear Intamin are trying to actually kill people, first with the out of ur seat literally airtime on the Walibi Belgium Mega Coaster and now this crazy coaster that will probably make it hard to breather at the top of the lift hill, pop your ears when rushing through the tunnel unless it features the world's biggest trim brakes, the speeds are reasonable but Six Flags are really trying to kill people with this and the airtime will crush people's thighs more than what i've heard on Skyrush! I'm not trying to be negative but it seems a bit like a pipe dream atm!It would appear that Falcon’s Flight has now begun to be designed, with Intamin being chosen to manufacture the ride: https://qiddiya.com/en/media/press-...ins-design-of-world-s-fastest-roller-coaster/
From the article, points of interest include:
My goodness; this thing sounds like it’s going to be utterly ludicrous! I can’t wait for when it opens in 2023!
Matt N
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This isn’t just a few renderings in Planet Coaster as far as I can tell; Intamin have actually been contracted to design this ride, and the whole thing is actually being funded by the Prince of Saudi Arabia as part of a project to drive up tourism to the country.Another pie in the sky thing that will never happen.
I’ll be the first to admit I’m wrong if it doesn’t happen, and I’m not necessarily saying that it will 100% happen by any means, but I personally think it looks legitimate, as ludicrous as the coaster might look on the face of it.
Skyscraper
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Especially considering the article states that general area groundwork has begun.This isn’t just a few renderings in Planet Coaster as far as I can tell; Intamin have actually been contracted to design this ride, and the whole thing is actually being funded by the Prince of Saudi Arabia as part of a project to drive up tourism to the country.
I’ll be the first to admit I’m wrong if it doesn’t happen, and I’m not necessarily saying that it will 100% happen by any means, but I personally think it looks legitimate, as ludicrous as the coaster might look on the face of it.
Thameslink Rail
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Saudi Arabia like the UAE have quite an incentive to build big projects like this, they have built their economies through oil but now that we are getting closer to oil running out they have to find some other income. The UAE have found a lot of success through Ferrari world and the tourist boom in Dubai, to me it seems only natural that Saudi Arabia would follow suit.
RicketyCricket
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4km length is a complete lie surely?
This may well go ahead with alterations but some of these stats they're throwing out seem impossible.
Intamin have made a fair few balls ups with sub 100ft coasters, can't see them building a 500 footer without it ever leaving SBNO status tbh.
This may well go ahead with alterations but some of these stats they're throwing out seem impossible.
Intamin have made a fair few balls ups with sub 100ft coasters, can't see them building a 500 footer without it ever leaving SBNO status tbh.
Benjsh
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This isn’t just a few renderings in Planet Coaster as far as I can tell; Intamin have actually been contracted to design this ride, and the whole thing is actually being funded by the Prince of Saudi Arabia as part of a project to drive up tourism to the country.
I’ll be the first to admit I’m wrong if it doesn’t happen, and I’m not necessarily saying that it will 100% happen by any means, but I personally think it looks legitimate, as ludicrous as the coaster might look on the face of it.
If a coaster gets built at all it won't look anything like the one on that ludicrous video. And it certainly won't be 500ft high either.
Is the park even 100% going ahead?
One man, with a spade, digs a hole a foot wide, and a foot deep.Especially considering the article states that general area groundwork has begun.![]()
"Groundworks have begun."
Great developers lie number one.
Tim
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The numbers sound ridiculous but they are not impossible.
It's the 500ft + one that has my attention. Based on the article it sounds like the coaster is going to drop into a valley. Using Oblivion's hole as an example it is 100ft deep. The tallest coaster is 418ft (tallest with a lift hill 320ft). Either could reach the 500ft target depending on the valleys depth. Very expensive but given where it's being built that might not be a problem.
If it reaches 500ft then the speed and length are likely to also be correct. 150mph is only just over Formula Rosa, but given that this is from a drop and there will be a lot of resistance it sounds about right.
The length also makes sence if they are intending to keep the ride going after the initial drop. Kingdra ka is just short of 1km in length and it's as small a circuit as a 400ft + coaster can be. Height and speed need a lot of length. If they intend to have multiple hills over 300ft I can see it reaching 4km, just. I can't imagine there'd be much speed by the end.
It's the 500ft + one that has my attention. Based on the article it sounds like the coaster is going to drop into a valley. Using Oblivion's hole as an example it is 100ft deep. The tallest coaster is 418ft (tallest with a lift hill 320ft). Either could reach the 500ft target depending on the valleys depth. Very expensive but given where it's being built that might not be a problem.
If it reaches 500ft then the speed and length are likely to also be correct. 150mph is only just over Formula Rosa, but given that this is from a drop and there will be a lot of resistance it sounds about right.
The length also makes sence if they are intending to keep the ride going after the initial drop. Kingdra ka is just short of 1km in length and it's as small a circuit as a 400ft + coaster can be. Height and speed need a lot of length. If they intend to have multiple hills over 300ft I can see it reaching 4km, just. I can't imagine there'd be much speed by the end.
Apparently it's going to have 3 launches, so given the number of launches and the speed, I think 4km sounds plausible.
https://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/202101/7946/
Presumably it will also need the mid-ride launches to act like block sections. A ride like this will be really expensive to build and maintain and with 20 seat cars, you'd need a launch a train frequently for it to stand any chance of being viable. You'd need to launch a train every 60 seconds to get a throughput of 1,200 riders and hour. It says it has a 3 minute ride time, so there'll need to be several trains going around the track at the same time.
One of the problems with such fast roller coasters is what happens if a passenger hits an object like a bird. In the artist impressions each car has a windshield, so they've clearly thought of that. Wind is another big problem, but if it's in a valley, perhaps wind won't be such an issue compared somewhere like Cedar Point that's on the edge of a lake.
https://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/202101/7946/
Presumably it will also need the mid-ride launches to act like block sections. A ride like this will be really expensive to build and maintain and with 20 seat cars, you'd need a launch a train frequently for it to stand any chance of being viable. You'd need to launch a train every 60 seconds to get a throughput of 1,200 riders and hour. It says it has a 3 minute ride time, so there'll need to be several trains going around the track at the same time.
One of the problems with such fast roller coasters is what happens if a passenger hits an object like a bird. In the artist impressions each car has a windshield, so they've clearly thought of that. Wind is another big problem, but if it's in a valley, perhaps wind won't be such an issue compared somewhere like Cedar Point that's on the edge of a lake.
Skyscraper
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Plus if it's in a huge valley, emergency access will be an issue. They'll need to have access routes in case of a stall. And even with those, evacs could take hours.Apparently it's going to have 3 launches, so given the number of launches and the speed, I think 4km sounds plausible.
https://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/202101/7946/
Presumably it will also need the mid-ride launches to act like block sections. A ride like this will be really expensive to build and maintain and with 20 seat cars, you'd need a launch a train frequently for it to stand any chance of being viable. You'd need to launch a train every 60 seconds to get a throughput of 1,200 riders and hour. It says it has a 3 minute ride time, so there'll need to be several trains going around the track at the same time.
One of the problems with such fast roller coasters is what happens if a passenger hits an object like a bird. In the artist impressions each car has a windshield, so they've clearly thought of that. Wind is another big problem, but if it's in a valley, perhaps wind won't be such an issue compared somewhere like Cedar Point that's on the edge of a lake.
Rick
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The other core problem with those rides is that they absolutely eat wheels, even when they're not in the desert!
It is curious that for a project that is primarily aimed at domestic tourism, in a country that currently offers a Boomerang and an Intamin Half Pipe, that they're going for such a statement ride. That said, a wealth fund with $382 billion probably doesn't want to be seen to build anything less ...
It is curious that for a project that is primarily aimed at domestic tourism, in a country that currently offers a Boomerang and an Intamin Half Pipe, that they're going for such a statement ride. That said, a wealth fund with $382 billion probably doesn't want to be seen to build anything less ...