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People are gonna be shocked when their dreams come true and Labour get in and the country and world continue to slide into oblivion.
I’m not making excuses, I’m saying what has happened in the past 2-3 years and being realistic, I doubt any Government would have done a good job of handling all three.
Haven’t they? I recall investment into the NHS being significantly better under Blair.
The repeated failure to renationalise under clause 4 concerned, and concerns, me more than Butcher Blairs bloody hands.Bold claim, what evidence are you using for this forecast?
The country improved when Labour where last in power, economists even point out that recovery from the 2008 global crash was far better in the immediate aftermath whilst Labour still ran the country and then stagnated once the Tory’s got control.
Literally the only thing anyone brings up that was overly negative about the last Labour government is the Iraq war, which was certainly a bad move but it’s one thing compared to the list of crap we have seen in the last 12 years.
From a left wingers perspective they didn’t go far enough on re-nationalisation sure but I would take the positive of 1997 to 2010 than the horror show we have now.
Investment isn’t so much an issue in the NHS it’s more about recruitment and retention of staff. Funding comes in where we need more beds due to all the new houses going up - but then what’s the point of new units if you can’t staff them.
And before anyone says Brexit, it was Labour that but the number of places offered for training nurses and cut the bursaries. This has since been restored but we need to encourage more young people to want to take up a career in healthcare than relying on foreign Labour, even as far away as Thailand in the past.
As for Europe having to deal with the pandemic, cost of living crisis etc, yeah some European countries are doing better but some are not.
Inflation is creeping up in all EU countries with some now having higher rates than the UK - Spain, Greece, Netherlands for example. The EU average inflation rate is 9.8% just looking this morning, the UK is 10.1% so not a vast difference.
As for energy prices, the Uk is second most expensive in the EU for electric but average for gas. There are other EU countries with higher costs.
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Same for petrol and diesel. Prices up across the EU and the UK isn’t the most expensive, and with other states closely priced to ours
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With regards food prices, again we are not the most expensive in the EU with their prices shooting up across states. The EU inflation rate for food now exceeds that of the UK.
We can compare political parties and the state of the UK vs EU for infinity, but fact is the EU is seeing the same problems as us, with some states performing better than others, but the overall picture is one similar to that of the UK. These are global problems we are seeing and I still don’t think any government could have done a good job of handling this triple whammy.
My question is going back to my original post, who is fit to run the country. Presently the UK is like US, millions of people in the population and no one standing out as a leader.
Maybe it’s time we have a mixed government made up of all the political parties in equal share.
The repeated failure to renationalise under clause 4 concerned, and concerns, me more than Butcher Blairs bloody hands.
Rather a few people on the left have raised that issue over the years, repeatedly.
You can't say "literally the only thing" and raise two issues!
Cost of living squeeze.
Gas and electric up by 300%
Wood and coal up by around 15%
Not looking good for a cleaner planet.
Out of interest; if the Tories are so awful, why have they won the last 4 elections?
Because (which takes me back to my initial question)? Who else was there to vote for? There hasn’t been any decent competition from another political party for a long time, that’s why they have got in each time.
Depends how you look at it. In terms of share of the vote, the Tories have had the biggest share in 11 of the last 14 general elections, and all of the last 4.2010 - They didn't win
2015 - Collapse of the Lib Dems handing most of their seats to the Tories
2017 - They didn't win again
2019 - Brexit, Corbyn, Boris popularity
I have said this before and I will say it again. We are lucky enough to live in a country where all the mainstream parties are relatively moderate. The conservative party would be considered very left wing in the USA.
I'm not sure it's fair to characterise everyone on benefits or disability or many of the other more vulnerable in our society as 'dirty stinking scroungers' just because some people may take advantage of a system (I'm guessing a very small percentage) A lot of 'scroungers' as you call them are on this money because they truely need it, I don't think the same could be said of the rich.So I don't really care who wins the next election because it probably won't make any difference to me or indeed 90% of the population. The only thing that changes is that under a Tory government the dirty stinking rich are slightly better off, and under a Labour government the dirty stinking scroungers are slightly better off!!
For the rest of us it will make no difference whatsoever.
I fully agree that many of the current issues aren't caused by the current government, and that a Labour government might not change certain things.The point i was trying to make is that a Labour government aren't going to wave a magic wand. Very little will change in terms of the lives of the majority of the population if there is a Labour government, very little indeed.
It fascinates me why there are so many very vocal Labour supporters who direct a lot of anger towards the Tory government and assume that a Labour government would transform their lives . It simply won't.
Most of the issues are being caused by the war in Ukraine with a sprinkling of Brexit thrown in (which more than half the country wanted).
Yes, a new government will change taxation around a bit, give something with one hand and take it away with another. They will reorganise spending pots, but its probably not going to make much difference.I fully agree that many of the current issues aren't caused by the current government, and that a Labour government might not change certain things.
However, what a Labour government could do is spend money differently to our current government and introduce different taxation policies so that more money can be spent on things such as public services and financial help to those who need it most.