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[The Smiler] Construction Updates / Ride Speculation Part 2 *SPOILER FREE*
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[The Smiler] Construction Updates and Ride Speculation Part 2
And Speed, with its old school track is by far the best.
DiogoJ42 said:
And Speed, with its old school track is by far the best.
BigDave
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Re: [The Smiler] Construction Updates and Ride Speculation Part 2
Air was partly built before shipping to the UK. Th13teens drop element was built in some carpark on the continent before being shipped to the UK.
They often build either a mock up of the ride or at least part of the ride before shipping the finial product. Think about it logically, they wouldn't ship a full ride thousands of miles only to find out it doesn't work. Even the best computer simulations can be wrong so they will have built and tested various parts before shipping.
Johno said:
Air was partly built before shipping to the UK. Th13teens drop element was built in some carpark on the continent before being shipped to the UK.
They often build either a mock up of the ride or at least part of the ride before shipping the finial product. Think about it logically, they wouldn't ship a full ride thousands of miles only to find out it doesn't work. Even the best computer simulations can be wrong so they will have built and tested various parts before shipping.
Poisson
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Re: [The Smiler] Construction Updates and Ride Speculation Part 2
SAW's construction itself is not the reason for Gerstache. The fact Thorpe put hundreds of tons of steel on unstable land is the reason. The land has suffered from subsidence so the track has moved slightly, causing it to be rough. Or so I believe.
SAW's construction itself is not the reason for Gerstache. The fact Thorpe put hundreds of tons of steel on unstable land is the reason. The land has suffered from subsidence so the track has moved slightly, causing it to be rough. Or so I believe.
Scott.Smith
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Re: [The Smiler] Construction Updates and Ride Speculation Part 2
I don't want to be the forum idiot but could someone please elaborate on what 'Gerstache' means.
DiogoJ42 said:
I don't want to be the forum idiot but could someone please elaborate on what 'Gerstache' means.
Tim
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Re: [The Smiler] Construction Updates and Ride Speculation Part 2
Odd how The Swarm has (to my knowledge) had no issues at all yet...
Not that I'm saying subsidence isn't the issue but I remember when Saw opened it very quickly gained a reputation for Gerstache so whatever causes it has been present from day one.
Odd how The Swarm has (to my knowledge) had no issues at all yet...
Not that I'm saying subsidence isn't the issue but I remember when Saw opened it very quickly gained a reputation for Gerstache so whatever causes it has been present from day one.
Rollercoasters4Life
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I know Th13teens drop mechanism was pre tested as you would, just to make sure the mechanism worked and that it stayed working over time. I don't believe The Smiler would of been partially built though - Unless there is some secret element track, then they would of just tested that. The only thing on Air that would of been pre built is the station section so they can test the train tilting mechanisms.
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BigDave said:
I know Th13teens drop mechanism was pre tested as you would, just to make sure the mechanism worked and that it stayed working over time. I don't believe The Smiler would of been partially built though - Unless there is some secret element track, then they would of just tested that. The only thing on Air that would of been pre built is the station section so they can test the train tilting mechanisms.
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Tuggerz
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Re: [The Smiler] Construction Updates and Ride Speculation Part 2
I would say any Worlds First mechanic needs to be tested way beforehand to assure that it works as intended and properly. Otherwise it could be installed and not work.
It's common sense in reality, Testing phases occur in every Industry and more so in the mechanical sense of things.
I would say any Worlds First mechanic needs to be tested way beforehand to assure that it works as intended and properly. Otherwise it could be installed and not work.
It's common sense in reality, Testing phases occur in every Industry and more so in the mechanical sense of things.
Re: [The Smiler] Construction Updates and Ride Speculation Part 2
I know I'm going to look like an idiot by asking this s you all seem to know, but what is 'Gerstache?' Lol. Is it something more specific than just being a rough ride? If thats what it means then The Ultimate at Lightwater Valley must be the worst offender...
I know I'm going to look like an idiot by asking this s you all seem to know, but what is 'Gerstache?' Lol. Is it something more specific than just being a rough ride? If thats what it means then The Ultimate at Lightwater Valley must be the worst offender...
Rollercoasters4Life
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Re: Re: [The Smiler] Construction Updates and Ride Speculation Part 2
It's what people say about rides that are rough and made by Gerstlauer. It's called Gerstache because it makes up the 'Gerst' of the beginning of Gerstlauer (the rides makers) and 'ache' as in aching because it's rough.
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ianto42 said:
It's what people say about rides that are rough and made by Gerstlauer. It's called Gerstache because it makes up the 'Gerst' of the beginning of Gerstlauer (the rides makers) and 'ache' as in aching because it's rough.
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Johno
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Air was tested in terms of the mechanism.
13 the mechanism.
I have not seen a single one of Alton's coasters entirely prebuilt somewhere else before being shipped. It comes out of the factory and then arrives at Alton to be built.
Yes, the new lift mechanism may have been tested somewhere else, but unless there is a secret element, the idea of them building an 18 million pound coaster on the opposite side of Europe, before dismantling it and moving it to Alton is rather abstract to say the least!
BigDave said:
Air was tested in terms of the mechanism.
13 the mechanism.
I have not seen a single one of Alton's coasters entirely prebuilt somewhere else before being shipped. It comes out of the factory and then arrives at Alton to be built.
Yes, the new lift mechanism may have been tested somewhere else, but unless there is a secret element, the idea of them building an 18 million pound coaster on the opposite side of Europe, before dismantling it and moving it to Alton is rather abstract to say the least!
Tim
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Re: Re: [The Smiler] Construction Updates and Ride Speculation Part 2
Correct but it's a bit more complex than that. Roughness comes in all different forms. What I class as Gerstache is unusual roughness that I've only experienced on a Gerstlauer ride. In the case of Saw it's a kind of jerking motion that personally has very little effect on me but I know my dad refuses to ride because it makes his neck unbearably painful for a while afterwards.
Rollercoasters4Life said:
Correct but it's a bit more complex than that. Roughness comes in all different forms. What I class as Gerstache is unusual roughness that I've only experienced on a Gerstlauer ride. In the case of Saw it's a kind of jerking motion that personally has very little effect on me but I know my dad refuses to ride because it makes his neck unbearably painful for a while afterwards.
Jordan
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I've written this up in the Medical Journal on the wiki.
Rollercoasters4Life said:
I've written this up in the Medical Journal on the wiki.
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Re: [The Smiler] Construction Updates and Ride Speculation Part 2
Can I just add to the whole "Built off site and then taken apart" argument, Gerstlauer actually build large elements of the coasters, or in some cases, but the whole coaster together and run it.
For example:
This is Three Sections of the heartline roll on Iron Shark
The entire lift structure of Iron Shark
So, yes, major parts of the ride would have already been together.
Can I just add to the whole "Built off site and then taken apart" argument, Gerstlauer actually build large elements of the coasters, or in some cases, but the whole coaster together and run it.
For example:
This is Three Sections of the heartline roll on Iron Shark
The entire lift structure of Iron Shark
So, yes, major parts of the ride would have already been together.
Plastic Person
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Re: [The Smiler] Construction Updates and Ride Speculation Part 2
It was second hand from the German touring circuit, so technically, yes.
It was second hand from the German touring circuit, so technically, yes.
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