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hannypanda said:
It's become apparent that you'll defend Shawn any way you can, so there's no point conversing with you.
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Yes I will do. As unless I'm mistaken no one has been found guilty at this moment in time of any allegations and no business would act any different.
 
Rick said:
If you are suggesting that in the event of a serious allegation(s), an organisation carries on regardless, I would challenge that.
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But they haven't have they? It's just Shawn and Charlotte for the foreseeable future whilst the allegations are being investigated by the police.
 
Ils said:
Yes I will do. As unless I'm mistaken no one has been found guilty at this moment in time of any allegations and no business would act any different.
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I posted yesterday how a wedding photographer that was charged but not convicted was allowed to carry on woking in an enviroment where children are obviously at risk. I can't see how theme parks can let TPWW in while this investigation goes ahead. We don't know how deep it is and I can't see anything put in place that is a protection measure to stop this happening again. The tools available to TPWW were one of reporting issues. However they were ignored so it should be up to others now to set new rules to follow.
 
@Ils It's not so much having 'just him and her on from now on'. It's about addressing the serious allegations in a way that shows respect towards the distressed individuals who have come forward, rather than the complete ignorance that has been shown with the poorly made copy and paste statements.
hannypanda said:
Secondly, there are accusations against Shawn for both racism and ableism, including proof of the former.
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I think these should be dealt with separately, conflating these issues with sexual assault and pedophilia allegations is really not the best idea, as it deflects from the main issue here on to a separate issue. Not saying it is fake at all, but the only proof you refer to is a couple of screenshots off a text message which can very easily be fabricated. We have to be careful not to be social media judges is the point.
 
Sauron97 said:
@Ils It's not so much having 'just him and her on from now on'. It's about addressing the serious allegations in a way that shows respect towards the distressed individuals who have come forward, rather than the complete ignorance that has been shown with the poorly made copy and paste statements.

I think these should be dealt with separately, conflating these issues with sexual assault and pedophilia allegations is really not the best idea, as it deflects from the main issue here on to a separate issue. Not saying it is fake at all, but the only proof you refer to is a couple of screenshots off a text message which can very easily be fabricated. We have to be careful not to be social media judges is the point.
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Of course, wasn't meaning to group them similarly at all, I was simply stating that Shawn isn't being considered the faultless god that others seem to believe he is.
 
SuperMuscleMan said:
I posted yesterday how a wedding photographer that was charged but not convicted was allowed to carry on woking in an enviroment where children are obviously at risk. I can't see how theme parks can let TPWW in while this investigation goes ahead. We don't know how deep it is and I can't see anything put in place that is a protection measure to stop this happening again. The tools available to TPWW were one of reporting issues. However they were ignored so it should be up to others now to set new rules to follow.
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A lot of people are making assumptions from behind a keyboard.

We don't know what is going on behind the scenes. The discussions being had between TPWW and the parks, TPWW and the police, Shawn with the others.

Let's just wait and see what happens before people hammer the nail in a bit deeper.

Sauron97 said:
@Ils It's not so much having 'just him and her on from now on'. It's about addressing the serious allegations in a way that shows respect towards the distressed individuals who have come forward, rather than the complete ignorance that has been shown with the poorly made copy and paste statements.

I think these should be dealt with separately, conflating these issues with sexual assault and pedophilia allegations is really not the best idea, as it deflects from the main issue here on to a separate issue. Not saying it is fake at all, but the only proof you refer to is a couple of screenshots off a text message which can very easily be fabricated. We have to be careful not to be social media judges is the point.
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Maybe they have been told legally they are not allowed to address this due to the investigation?
 
hannypanda said:
Of course, wasn't meaning to group them similarly at all, I was simply stating that Shawn isn't being considered the faultless god that others seem to believe he is.
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He is not a god..he is a lad in his mid 20's that vlogs about theme parks and happens to have found some success.

Why not wait until the conclusion of the investigation before we start to judge all parties involved?
 
Ils said:
He is not a god..he is a lad in his mid 25 that vlogs about theme parks and happens to have found some success.

Why not wait until the conclusion of the investigation before we start to judge all parties involved?
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So why do you keep referring to him as if he's a multi-national business?

As I've previously said, regardless of whether a crime has been committed or not certain individuals are not innocent and never will be.

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The investigation is irrelevant; whether someone is guilty or innocent is besides the point. You treat people who come forward like this with respect. Lots of them are clearly distressed and are stating that they are suffering from mental health issues due to this. The statement issued does not express any sympathy whatsoever for these individuals who are suffering. And the blocking and hiding of comments only makes it worse. It's possible to do all of these things regardless of legal advice given.

Also the faultless god comment is relevant. I have seen people saying "I'll ALWAYS support you TPW, no matter WHAT" with tonnes of likes in the responses at the top of every video and post, and calling all of the people who have come out as "attention seeking maggots". Do you see the point now?
 
hannypanda said:
So why do you keep referring to him as if he's a multi-national business?

As I've previously said, regardless of whether a crime has been committed or not certain individuals are not innocent and never will be.

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But Shawn is not the individual and is likely be guided by legal advice.
 
Ils said:
But Shawn is not the individual and is likely be guided by legal advice.
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Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. Who knows?

Whether he's been given legal advice or not, the way he's conducted himself in the last few days has been inexcusable. Yes he's young, yes he'll make mistakes, but pretending he's the innocent party in all of this is simply comical.

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Sauron97 said:
The investigation is irrelevant; whether someone is guilty or innocent is besides the point. You treat people who come forward like this with respect. Lots of them are clearly distressed and are stating that they are suffering from mental health issues due to this. The statement issued does not express any sympathy whatsoever for these individuals who are suffering. And the blocking and hiding of comments only makes it worse. It's possible to do all of these things regardless of legal advice given.

Also the faultless god comment is relevant. I have seen people saying "I'll ALWAYS support you TPW, no matter WHAT" with tonnes of likes in the responses at the top of every video and post, and calling all of the people who have come out as "attention seeking maggots". Do you see the point now?
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Yes but legally he may have been advised not to address the issue? It is now a legal matter...you can't start contacting individuals involved directly to have a chat.
 
hannypanda said:
Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. Who knows?

Whether he's been given legal advice or not, the way he's conducted himself in the last few days has been inexcusable. Yes he's young, yes he'll make mistakes, but pretending he's the innocent party in all of this is simply comical.

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How has he made out he is the innocent party?
 
Does anyone know what the deal is with TPW and any of these other channels actually, with regards to paying people? I mean, the others that featured alongside Shawn, do they get a cut of the revenue or just expenses covered for tagging along?
 
Matgo said:
Does anyone know what the deal is with TPW and any of these other channels actually, with regards to paying people? I mean, the others that featured alongside Shawn, do they get a cut of the revenue or just expenses covered for tagging along?
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As far as I'm aware they get absolutely zero from him. That is why a certain individual walked away from the channel.
 
Does ILS stand for I Love Shawn or I Love Sandbrooke?

hannypanda said:
As far as I'm aware they get absolutely zero from him. That is why a certain individual walked away from the channel.
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Also said individual has many people coming out against them.

The parks should bar them from filming whilst this is happening, I understand they can't really bar the individuals as they will have to work through due process to do that, probably with a police report to help ban them. Well I hope they'll be barred if they are found out, just like I'd hope say Sealey is barred for being a nonce.
 
Poisson said:
Does ILS stand for I Love Shawn or I Love Sandbrooke?



Also said individual (I'm going to guess you mean Franklin) has many people coming out against them.

The parks should bar them from filming whilst this is happening, I understand they can't really bar the individuals as they will have to work through due process to do that, probably with a police report to help ban them. Well I hope they'll be barred if they are found out, just like I'd hope say Sealey is barred for being a nonce.
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Yes I do, but I heard it from a number of other people (some of whom have appeared on TPW), hence why I have more reason to believe it.

A few years back there used to be 10-15 people who were members of TPW, but gradually over time it's whittled down to about 3 or 4. Allegedly Shawn was not forthcoming with any sort of recompense for those who joined him on his trips. They even had arguments about petrol money, which Shawn refused to pay due to them being on his channel. This person fully believed Shawn used them as a way to get up and down the country before he could drive himself (coincidentally the amount of people appearing in vlogs has decreased vastly since he passed his driving test).

I've also heard on a number of occasions that Shawn doesn't even pay for Charlotte, and any trips she joins him on are at her own expense. I find that mind boggling.
 
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